@suzianne saidBut you think it happened in 2016.
Kudos to you, man. You have far more patience than I do.
I can't assume people are this stupid about elections. This country has had a lot of them, it's not rocket science. And so when I see someone being this bull-headed obstinate, I have to assume they're doing it on purpose, because I can't believe people are this stupid.
But then, Trump was elected, so anything's possible I guess.
How can you be this stupid about elections?
How did it happen in 2016, but not 2020?
You are contradicting yourself.
@metal-brain saidIt can only happen in centralised authoritarian states whereby they control the ballot boxes and the counting.
You are stupid!
Voting machines can be manipulated into counting votes incorrectly. Until there is a recount with paper ballots counted by hand you would never know, and I never claimed there was massive voter fraud so stop lying. All I said is how do you know it is not possible when it is done in countries like Saddam's Iraq.
How do you know?
They simply report that they’ve won and by how many votes, not even you can be thick enough to think that because it can happen in Saddam’s Iraq then why not the US.
There never was any widespread or electorally significant voter fraud in 2020. Trump knew it, the scumbag Republican supporters of the big lie knew it and of course you and your colleagues in the Russian troll factory knew it.
@Metal-Brain
Why do you keep bring Saddam's Iraq into this? It's irrelevant.
If someone claims fraud happened, on such a scale as to invalidate the whole process, the burden of proof is on him to show evidence of it. In the absence of evidence, there is no reason to believe it happened. You keep saying I don't know it did not happen. That's like saying I don't know meteorites did not damage 15,000 cars last night. Your argument is baloney. I don't have to prove something did not happen. You have to prove it did, in sufficient quantity to invalidate the result.
Trump and his lawyers have had nearly a year to provide evidence which would stand up in court. They have produced nothing. 50 cases were thrown out for lack of evidence. Not even prima facie evidence. Zip. Nada. Nyet. Do let us know when you find something credible.
@kevcvs57 saidThe whole point of holding elections in an authoritarian state is to fool people into thinking the state is a democracy. That is not accomplished by overt election stealing.
It can only happen in centralised authoritarian states whereby they control the ballot boxes and the counting.
They simply report that they’ve won and by how many votes, not even you can be thick enough to think that because it can happen in Saddam’s Iraq then why not the US.
There never was any widespread or electorally significant voter fraud in 2020. Trump knew it, the ...[text shortened]... s of the big lie knew it and of course you and your colleagues in the Russian troll factory knew it.
As far as counting goes, your dem comrades are trying to claim counting votes wrong does not change votes. Explain to them they are wrong.
You have no idea how elections were rigged in Iraq. You are merely making up crap you have no idea is true.
@moonbus saidIt isn't irrelevant at all. It is very relevant.
@Metal-Brain
Why do you keep bring Saddam's Iraq into this? It's irrelevant.
If someone claims fraud happened, on such a scale as to invalidate the whole process, the burden of proof is on him to show evidence of it. In the absence of evidence, there is no reason to believe it happened. You keep saying I don't know it did not happen. That's like saying I don't know mete ...[text shortened]... ce. Not even prima facie evidence. Zip. Nada. Nyet. Do let us know when you find something credible.
Saddam's Iraq held it's people to the same burden of proof you say needs to be met here. There was no evidence because the courts rejected the election fraud claims. There was no reason to believe it happened in Iraq either.
Does that mean election fraud allegations in Saddam's Iraq were false?
"50 cases were thrown out for lack of evidence."
That is FALSE! Most of those cases were dismissed on standing and had nothing to do with evidence. It is obvious you are repeating misinformation from unreliable sources.
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION!
@Metal-Brain
Sure, says the POSTER BOY for misinformation AND it is UTTERLY BS to be bringing in Sadam in the first place.
You really THINK you have some kind of argument but what you REALLY have is proof you are STUPID AND in sway of your god king.
@sonhouse saidMost of those cases were dismissed on standing and had nothing to do with evidence. It is obvious you are repeating misinformation from unreliable sources.
@Metal-Brain
Sure, says the POSTER BOY for misinformation AND it is UTTERLY BS to be bringing in Sadam in the first place.
You really THINK you have some kind of argument but what you REALLY have is proof you are STUPID AND in sway of your god king.
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION!
@Metal-Brain
And YOU stop distracting with BULLSHYTE crap having nothing to do with the FRAUDIT just completed.
I gather you don't even agree with the THIRD audit done this time by that Ninja Qanon idiot, even HE says there was no evidence in spite of the fact his 3 week job took 7 MONTHS and came up with NOTHING.
@sonhouse saidMost of those cases were dismissed on standing and had nothing to do with evidence. It is obvious you are repeating misinformation from unreliable sources.
@Metal-Brain
And YOU stop distracting with BULLSHYTE crap having nothing to do with the FRAUDIT just completed.
I gather you don't even agree with the THIRD audit done this time by that Ninja Qanon idiot, even HE says there was no evidence in spite of the fact his 3 week job took 7 MONTHS and came up with NOTHING.
They came up with 99 votes that needed to be changed. That is something.
@Metal-Brain
And you are assuming a bunch of laundry workers or bus drivers in the hands of that Ninja Turtle dude, that they are all going to be counting to accuracy of 1 vote after 2 MILLION counted.
But OF COURSE you would jump on such a stupid result and immediately weaponize it.
@sonhouse saidMost of those cases were dismissed on standing and had nothing to do with evidence.
@Metal-Brain
And you are assuming a bunch of laundry workers or bus drivers in the hands of that Ninja Turtle dude, that they are all going to be counting to accuracy of 1 vote after 2 MILLION counted.
But OF COURSE you would jump on such a stupid result and immediately weaponize it.
@Metal-Brain
So it doesn't matter to you how many audits are done, now up to at least three in Arizona, tell me, how many audits will it take for you to shut up on the big tRUMP lie?
@sonhouse saidMost of those cases were dismissed on standing and had nothing to do with evidence.
@Metal-Brain
So it doesn't matter to you how many audits are done, now up to at least three in Arizona, tell me, how many audits will it take for you to shut up on the big tRUMP lie?
@Metal-Brain
MOST? There IS no evidence you would accept since you don't CARE whether there was fraud or not, all you care about is pushing your anti American agenda, with your ultimate goal to overthrow our government and install your 'socialist' crap.