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Armchair world-savers -- any tips?

Armchair world-savers -- any tips?

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@kevcvs57 said
If you guys learn to read you’ll notice he was talking about the planet not your emotionally scarred dark little corner of the world.
You are correct, he was. For some reason, I am focused on the USA. Sorry bout that.
So, a global universal system applying to about 8500 different cultures!!! Why do I think this thread will peter out??


@kevin-eleven said
I'm new at this, but I believe that together we can all grab the tiller of this benighted planet and set it on a better course toward a lovelier and more beneficial horizon.
Eat the billionaires.


@shallow-blue said
Eat the billionaires.
Eat the billionaires, and of course, the jobs, products and services, ....and jobs.... that are a part of them. That will do it!


@shavixmir said
My tip would be to gather all capitalists and religious people together. Stick them in a rocket and blast them off into the Sun.
"The Forests are Dying - Acid Rain over Germany"
- DER SPIEGEL, 1981

Today: Over 1/3 of Germany is forested. And rising CO2 levels have caused "global greening" worldwide.


@averagejoe1 said
Eat the billionaires, and of course, the jobs, products and services, ....and jobs.... that are a part of them. That will do it!
No. That's why I wrote billionaires, not millionaires.

There are more than enough real jobs in real companies, and there would be better jobs even in multimegaconglomerations if they treated their employees like humans. We don't need parasites like Bezos and Musk to make as much in a second as one of their dehumanised resources makes in several years, and we don't need even more cheap plastic @&*# from China. What we need is jobs that make employees proud of what they do, let them live a life worth living rather than just barely survive, and quality products and services meant for humans rather than consumers.

Eat the billionaires. Let real, old-fashioned, human-focused companies run the economy instead.,


@wajoma said
"The Forests are Dying - Acid Rain over Germany"
- DER SPIEGEL, 1981

Today: Over 1/3 of Germany is forested. And rising CO2 levels have caused "global greening" worldwide.
That's because Europe listened to the conservationists and tree-huggers, not the coal-focused capitalists, and started to invest in alternative sources of energy. Yet another win for the lefties!


@shallow-blue said
No. That's why I wrote billionaires, not millionaires.

There are more than enough real jobs in real companies, and there would be better jobs even in multimegaconglomerations if they treated their employees like humans. We don't need parasites like Bezos and Musk to make as much in a second as one of their dehumanised resources makes in several years, and we don't ne ...[text shortened]...

Eat the billionaires. Let real, old-fashioned, human-focused companies run the economy instead.,
Are you saying to restrict the geniuses, like Musk, who will put a man on Mars, or like Bezos, who provides just about everything? You want to restrict, get rid of, these people? Can you answer this question? Please, without emotion or anger.

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@averagejoe1 said
Are you saying to restrict the geniuses, like Musk, who will put a man on Mars, or like Bezos, who provides just about everything? You want to restrict, get rid of, these people? Can you answer this question? Please, without emotion or anger.
Yes we want to restrict them financially. No one not even a genius requires billions as an incentive.
It’s one of the core weaknesses of capitalism that far too much money ends up in far to few hands rather than recirculating within the system. Billionaires should be subject to regular windfall taxes the proceeds of which would be used to stimulate the real economy rather than sending a few massive egos into space for a day or less.
No emotion or anger just a more functional / rational economic superstructure


@shallow-blue said
No. That's why I wrote billionaires, not millionaires.

There are more than enough real jobs in real companies, and there would be better jobs even in multimegaconglomerations if they treated their employees like humans. We don't need parasites like Bezos and Musk to make as much in a second as one of their dehumanised resources makes in several years, and we don't ne ...[text shortened]...

Eat the billionaires. Let real, old-fashioned, human-focused companies run the economy instead.,
You are aware, that workers wages are rising, but not as fast as inflation. So all employers seem to be doing their job. Next you will be talking like Bernie and saying we need to pay them enough money to pay for their living expenses and families.
You Are also aware, that any tax burden put on a corporation is simply transferred through to the consumers (the humans, the trans, whatever).The corporations do not pay taxes.


@kevcvs57 said
Yes we want to restrict them financially. No one not even a genius requires billions as an incentive.
It’s one of the core weaknesses of capitalism that far too much money ends up in far to few hands rather than recirculating within the system. Billionaires should be subject to regular windfall taxes the proceeds of which would be used to stimulate the real economy rather ...[text shortened]... ce for a day or less.
No emotion or anger just a more functional / rational economic superstructure
But it smacks of govt control, Remember when Nixon froze wages among all his other problems, and it had absolutely horrible effect?. Controlled by the government. Just great. Your comments here suggest a touch of Marxism. I thought you were a communist. Marauder May be the Marxist. You two could really smooth things out. Could we still be allowed to have Amazon? Would you allow other entrepreneurs like Bezos to come up with even greater ideas in the future? Or are you, as you say above, going to restrict that?


@kevcvs57 said
Yes we want to restrict them financially. No one not even a genius requires billions as an incentive.
Let's take this sentence. There are 335M of us. You will punish the successful, but leave the others alone, as long as they don't REQUIRE? too much???
My maid has a simple life style, spends what she makes. That income is thus all the she requires. She does not require a swimming pool, she is healthy and happy.
I am healthy and happy. I would like to put in a $50K swimming pool at my house. I guess I do not require it, but I want one, I want it and a fancy car, maybe 2, real bad.
So, keeping this scenario on a simple, understandable level for our readers, how would the govt agency, established by you and Marauder, handle this request by me to put in a pool? I guess we can stipulate that I do not require it, your word.


@Metal-Brain
Why are you obsessing on Rumble? I assume you do know there are actual unbiased sites out there giving stories but you ONLY want fringe sites you think helps your twisted cause COMRADE.


@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
Why are you obsessing on Rumble? I assume you do know there are actual unbiased sites out there giving stories but you ONLY want fringe sites you think helps your twisted cause COMRADE.
Hey Sonhouse, did you see above where your comrades want to tell us all how much we require in life? What if you require a roomful of mandos? They may say...not so fast!!!


@AverageJoe1
What WOULD do it is if Planet Earth somehow loses 5 or 6 billion humans and don't take that as me suggesting genocide. I am saying right up there are WAY too many people on Earth and the present climate crisis is 100% proof of that, we are WAY to greedy, too stupid to do the things it will take to reverse this trend of higher CO2 and Methane and clouds that reflect IR back to Earth.
Humans will get what they deserve, a change is coming and good luck to those that don't survive the next couple hundred years.
There are so many human cause climate change deniers they allow stupid politicians to not do their jobs but instead hand out get out of jail cards and free passes on opening up new oil drill sites, going back to burning coal by the millions of tons.
What could POSSIBLY go wrong......


@kevin-eleven said
I'm new at this, but I believe that together we can all grab the tiller of this benighted planet and set it on a better course toward a lovelier and more beneficial horizon.
I would require people to do the work of others one day a month. i.e., Require a hotel CEO to clean rooms for a day, the bell clerk to do the CEO's job, a rich landlord to scrub toilets, a lower middle-class tenant to manage a building, a high-ranking hospital administrator to work in the laundry room, a nurse to manage schedules, payroll, and the emergency ward etc.

We can't improve the world we live unless we know what others do in their work, **and we can't learn that by reading about it!

I hear, and I forget - I see and I remember - I do, and I understand - Old Chinese Proverb. 🙂

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