@mott-the-hoople saidYou mean like the book of Matthew?
do you mean I have to rely on what someone Wrote? that is your proof?
@mott-the-hoople saidDefine “prove” for the purposes of this discussion.
prove to me any of those actually happened.
We already know what “prove” means in a court of law: beyond a reasonable doubt. You appear to be demanding some other criterion here.
@athousandyoung saidSo possibly they also named Alderan?
Algebra was named by the Arabs, as were many stars like Aldebaran. You can thank Islam for that.
@moonbus saidBut if you could prove Jesus, you wouldn't need faith, and faith is the indispensable element of belief.
Define “prove” for the purposes of this discussion.
We already know what “prove” means in a court of law: beyond a reasonable doubt. You appear to be demanding some other criterion here.
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@mott-the-hoople saidWell prove yours then, Cmon prove yours
"I’m not even questioning the existence of the person you have presented as the sin of a god I’m simply asking why the birth of an Israelite who spurned a cult should be considered the year dot of modern history'
because it is the most important time in the history of the world
I only ask you (and others)to prove your assertions to show yours and their hypocrisy in accepting historical figures.
@shavixmir saidI don’t doubt that some real historical figure, named Jeshua or something similar, existed. The mantel of The Christ, God Himself incarnate, has been over-layered on top of a possibly real historical figure, and that is the bit that is dubious.
I'm pretty sure the person Jesus of Nazereth existed.
I mean, even outside of the gospels, there are some texts referring to him.
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@mott-the-hoople saidProve your assertion or slink back into the intellectual sludge from whence you came.
you have lost your right to be thought of as a worthy opponent...sry
but I do have a grandchild in kindergarten tho...Ill check, he may take you on
Are you seriously feeble minded enough to demand proof of universally accepted facts whilst offering no proof whatsoever to back your claim concerning the son of a god. 😂🙄
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@mott-the-hoople saidNo, you have something to prove. I don’t have to prove elves, fairies, kobolds, goblins, incubi, succubi, vampires, werewolves, griffins, unicorns, or gods don’t exist. The burden of proof is entirely on those who claim such things do exist.
prove it
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@moonbus saidI can and did prove it just as much as you can prove any ancient history. There is a book with it ALL in it...read it
No, you have something to prove. I don’t have to prove elves, fairies, kobolds, goblins, incubi, succubi, vampires, werewolves, griffins, unicorns, or gods don’t exist. The burden of proof is entirely on those who claim such things do exist.
@shavixmir saidExamples?
I'm pretty sure the person Jesus of Nazereth existed.
I mean, even outside of the gospels, there are some texts referring to him.