@shavixmir saidNow we find out we are in worse trouble than we actually thought.
Uh, I don’t want to bum you out, but the US democracy is as good as dead already…
ICE is now equipped with Paragon, an Israeli based cell phone spyware that can activate the phone mic so they can spy on people and hear what everyone in the room is saying. This spying cannot even be detected, you don't even know it is spying on you and it can run even if turned off.
My guess is you get a case with an RF proof box so the WIFI signal cannot get through, that should save you from spying at least till you need to call someone.
I think it doesn't matter if you turned off WIFI, they get through anyway.
They are planning to spy on democrats daring to protest. If they invoke enough fear, you are right, our democracy is gone.
I don't want to live in the US any more but just too damned old, 84, so that means I am stuck with whatever sick crap Trump and ICE want's to pull and I would not be a bit surprised if the FBI under Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are pulling strings to find out every American who protested.
@sonhouse saidIt is owned by US firms now.
Now we find out we are in worse trouble than we actually thought.
ICE is now equipped with Paragon, an Israeli based cell phone spyware that can activate the phone mic so they can spy on people and hear what everyone in the room is saying. This spying cannot even be detected, you don't even know it is spying on you and it can run even if turned off.
My guess is you get a c ...[text shortened]... the FBI under Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are pulling strings to find out every American who protested.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/israeli-spyware-firm-paragon-acquired-by-us-investment-group-report-says-2024-12-16/
https://www.businessinsider.com/edward-snowden-israeli-spyware-nso-group-pegasus-jamal-khashoggi-murder-2018-11
And Snowden has been warning us about this for a long time.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/19/edward-snowden-calls-spyware-trade-ban-pegasus-revelations
Get used to your surveillance society. You let it happen. You were too busy condemning Snowden and Assange to prevent this nightmare. Happy?
@Metal-Brain saidHELL NO I AM NOT HAPPY AND NEVER WILL BE WITH A FKING CORRUPT POTUS IN CHARGE.
It is owned by US firms now.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/israeli-spyware-firm-paragon-acquired-by-us-investment-group-report-says-2024-12-16/
https://www.businessinsider.com/edward-snowden-israeli-spyware-nso-group-pegasus-jamal-khashoggi-murder-2018-11
And Snowden has been warning us about this for a long time.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/ ...[text shortened]... ou let it happen. You were too busy condemning Snowden and Assange to prevent this nightmare. Happy?
@sonhouse saidSo you want another corrupt POTUS in charge. The only thing that changes with presidents in charge is the rhetoric. Policies don't change much and foreign policy never changes.
HELL NO I AM NOT HAPPY AND NEVER WILL BE WITH A FKING CORRUPT POTUS IN CHARGE.
You are caught in the false right/left paradigm. Like when you complained Trump's proposed 100% tariffs would ruin the economy and Biden already had 100% tariffs on China's EVs. He expanded Trump's tariffs. They are not that different. Both are probably child molesters. Trump was buddies with Jeff Epstein and Joe and his inappropriate touching of children is legendary.
Has it ever occurred to you that corruption does not care about party lines?
@Metal-Brain saidThere is corrupt and there is corrupt. If Biden or Obama made some extra money whoopie, that is nowhere NEAR the level of corruption of Trump AND his family, now about FIVE BILLION so far between Jarhead, Trump Sr and Jr.
So you want another corrupt POTUS in charge. The only thing that changes with presidents in charge is the rhetoric. Policies don't change much and foreign policy never changes.
You are caught in the false right/left paradigm. Like when you complained Trump's proposed 100% tariffs would ruin the economy and Biden already had 100% tariffs on China's EVs. He expanded Tru ...[text shortened]... ldren is legendary.
Has it ever occurred to you that corruption does not care about party lines?
AND that is not me admitting to any such corruption of Biden or Obama, the corruption of Trump is not hidden it is right out in the open BECAUSE he already thinks of himself as a king, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ABOVE THE LAW so he makes ICE, AND gives those barbarians ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, a bigger budget than our ENTIRE MARINE CORP.
There is NO rationale for having a secret police, gestapo, no ID which regular cops, National guard and regular US military THEY ALL GIVE ID's AND DON'T WEAR MASKS.
That is only PART of the corruption of Trump, an entirely different order of corruption, US COUNTRY RUINING kind of corruption.
Trump is running the ENTIRE US INTO THE GROUND.
So KISS MY ASS if you think you are actually presenting some kind of REALLY STUPID defense of Trump, Whatabouthimism where it would be like a dude steals a car and his defense to the judge goes, well WHAT ABOUT THAT 10 Year old girl next door selling Ice tea and SHE HAS NO PERMIT.
THAT is the level difference between the ABSOLUTELY MOST CORRUPT POTUS in US history VS ANYTHING Biden or Obama did (ALLEGED, NOT PROVEN BTW, JUST WORDS ON YOUR PART, you just REpuke the crap that Trump pukes out VIA all the RUMBLES, NEWSMAX and the like, Trump's propaganda wing of his cult.
@sonhouse saidSo only republicans are corrupt? So nice of them to respect party lines. MORON!
There is corrupt and there is corrupt. If Biden or Obama made some extra money whoopie, that is nowhere NEAR the level of corruption of Trump AND his family, now about FIVE BILLION so far between Jarhead, Trump Sr and Jr.
AND that is not me admitting to any such corruption of Biden or Obama, the corruption of Trump is not hidden it is right out in the open BECAUSE he alrea ...[text shortened]... that Trump pukes out VIA all the RUMBLES, NEWSMAX and the like, Trump's propaganda wing of his cult.
@Metal-Brain saidNo I DID NOT say only repubs are corrupt. I said the corruption of Trump is WAY more massive than any other POTUS in US history.
So only republicans are corrupt? So nice of them to respect party lines. MORON!
So you are so stuck up Trumps ass you really think whatever corruption you think Obama or Biden did, is far worse than Trump LITERALLY getting BILLIONS.
Oh yeah, I forgot, If Trump makes money as a sitting president, he gets a permanent bye.
@sonhouse saidIn the entire US history? That is a ridiculous statement. Exaggerate much?
No I DID NOT say only repubs are corrupt. I said the corruption of Trump is WAY more massive than any other POTUS in US history.
So you are so stuck up Trumps ass you really think whatever corruption you think Obama or Biden did, is far worse than Trump LITERALLY getting BILLIONS.
Oh yeah, I forgot, If Trump makes money as a sitting president, he gets a permanent bye.
@Metal-Brain saidSo do the math, suppose Obama stole a million bucks.
In the entire US history? That is a ridiculous statement. Exaggerate much?
Trump got TWO BILLION. TWO THOUSAND TIMES MORE MONEY than the hypothetical of ANYONE else.
BTW don't EVEN go Trump never got that money.
We KNOW he got it, it was shown all over TV about his corrupt deals in the middle east. A freebie jet from Qatar, a couple bil from UAE.
And when those folks give away money it is NOT because they are SO GENEROUS.
They give money away KNOWING a corrupt POTUS will pay them back with great contract deals.
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@sonhouse saidIf you had any evidence of that you would present it. You just keep making up crap. And it is not that I doubt Trump is corrupt, just that you can't prove it. Even if you could that doesn't mean a lot either. Biden was wired money from foreign countries and he didn't go to prison. Some people are above the law because they know the right people. Joe had to pardon Hunter for a reason.
So do the math, suppose Obama stole a million bucks.
Trump got TWO BILLION. TWO THOUSAND TIMES MORE MONEY than the hypothetical of ANYONE else.
BTW don't EVEN go Trump never got that money.
We KNOW he got it, it was shown all over TV about his corrupt deals in the middle east. A freebie jet from Qatar, a couple bil from UAE.
And when those folks give away money it is ...[text shortened]... ENEROUS.
They give money away KNOWING a corrupt POTUS will pay them back with great contract deals.
https://oversight.house.gov/landing/biden-family-investigation/
@Metal-Brain saidI don't have to present anything, you REFUSE to accept ANY corruption from Trump so KISS MY ASS ONCE MORE, you must LOVE the taste by now.
If you had any evidence of that you would present it. You just keep making up crap. And it is not that I doubt Trump is corrupt, just that you can't prove it. Even if you could that doesn't mean a lot either. Biden was wired money from foreign countries and he didn't go to prison. Some people are above the law because they know the right people. Joe had to pardon Hunter for a reason.
https://oversight.house.gov/landing/biden-family-investigation/
@Metal-Brain saidAnd OF COURSE you are incapable of searching on Google what I said.
You cannot present what you do not have.