@mchill saidThe pursuit of selective freedom continues.
Freedom, independence, self-reliance, you know, those important parts of a man's life.
Dear Joe. Aren't you forgetting something? You gladly accept what our country offers i.e. an army and navy to protect you, law enforcement, courts of law, a reasonably stable currency, deposit protection, roads, bridges etc. All things provided by your Local, State, and Federal Governme ...[text shortened]... t both way's Joe, it's a package deal. Either accept the package, or find another place to live! π
@averagejoe1 saidMe too! I'd forgotten about that.
Yes, in the late '60s I actually subscribed to her newsletter, The Objectivist.
@moonbus saidBoth. It's a vicious circle, but Trump has been messing in politics since the late 20th century and in unbridled corruption ever since Reagan and Thatcher made that fashionable.
Quote from the article: “It was an excuse to not examine what had gone wrong in a world that welcomed Trump as president, not an absolution of Clinton’s flaws.“
I always viewed Trump as a symptom not a cause of what’s going wrong with America.
@moonbus saidIt is boring the way you fellers say Trump was bad, like it is a fact, like the sky is blue.
Quote from the article: “It was an excuse to not examine what had gone wrong in a world that welcomed Trump as president, not an absolution of Clinton’s flaws.“
I always viewed Trump as a symptom not a cause of what’s going wrong with America.
Moon, if that were the case, 50% of our country would not think he was a good president. So either you libs are wrong, or they are wrong.
You could be useful if you can prove that he was bad.
@moonbus saidYou missed my primer on Bankruptcy? Bankruptcy is a great tool which allows your cousins to recover a lot of that which is owed to them by the Trump corporations. (Golly, he made a bad business decision, out of hundreds of business decisions).
He’s bankrupted how many companies now, five? He’s a shirker, never takes responsibility when things go awry. He’s still harping on an election he lost by 7 million votes. That’s your roll model ? Ouch.
Were it not for bankruptcy, restructuring, whatever, the corp would just shut down and the employees and vendors and suppliers???? ......they would get nothing.
Hope this helps. I was always amazed how Suzy and you fellers just wrote over the years willy-nilly about the horrors of bankruptcy, when it is actually a good thing. Ohhhh, the misinformation on the forum............
Glad to help π
@averagejoe1 saidThat explains a lot. For example, why no one can get through to you that your well-being depends on your willingness to ensure the well-being of anyone else.
Yes, in the late '60s I actually subscribed to her newsletter, The Objectivist.
@mchill saidLib think. Our country offers?!?! We pay for all that, McHill. So your post is flat on its face. Have you ever dissected this really complicated adage (general truth)....The Govt works for us. We employ the government. The President, the road builders.
Freedom, independence, self-reliance, you know, those important parts of a man's life.
Dear Joe. Aren't you forgetting something? You gladly accept what our country offers i.e. an army and navy to protect you, law enforcement, courts of law, a reasonably stable currency, deposit protection, roads, bridges etc. All things provided by your Local, State, and Federal Governme ...[text shortened]... t both way's Joe, it's a package deal. Either accept the package, or find another place to live! π
Here is the crux,, McHill. You libs see it EXACTLY REVERSE. The hell of it is, you WANT to be dependent on the government giving you things, ....But McHill,, they are simply giving back to you, in goods and services, that which you have paid to them,, their source of revenue.
Pure sad idiocy. Do you know that the govt does not have anything to give? Jesus. You are sounding like that Jimmmm person.
@moonbus saidInteresting, please elaborate. A level discussion must assume, however, a society of charity, where the needy or folks who need a leg up are counseled by those who have had successes in their lives.
That explains a lot. For example, why no one can get through to you that your well-being depends on your willingness to ensure the well-being of anyone else.
What a great society that would be. No need for big brother govt or nanny state. Freedom, Independence.
@averagejoe1 saidI think the optics are good enough.
It is boring the way you fellers say Trump was bad, like it is a fact, like the sky is blue.
Moon, if that were the case, 50% of our country would not think he was a good president. So either you libs are wrong, or they are wrong.
You could be useful if you can prove that he was bad.
Lawyers can get through the nuts and bolts.
But they will never shape public opinion.
In physics, we know a black hole is there because of the sh&t we can see going around it. But we can't see the black hole.
I guess the same applies to Trump.
Now I'm just waiting for the white noise in this forum to chirp up....
"Prove that black holes exist".
@averagejoe1 saidA primer ????
You missed my primer on Bankruptcy? Bankruptcy is a great tool which allows your cousins to recover a lot of that which is owed to them by the Trump corporations. (Golly, he made a bad business decision, out of hundreds of business decisions).
Were it not for bankruptcy, restructuring, whatever, the corp would just shut down and the employees and vendors and suppl ...[text shortened]... is actually a good thing. Ohhhh, the misinformation on the forum............
Glad to help π
You teach Bankruptcy 101 ??
Very good......π€£π€£π€£π€£
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@mghrn55 saidThis post does not get even close to a response to my saying 50%, or 49% of the country thinks he was and would be again, a good president. Why can you, a typical lib, not even acknowledge something so simple?
I think the optics are good enough.
Lawyers can get through the nuts and bolts.
But they will never shape public opinion.
In physics, we know a black hole is there because of the sh&t we can see going around it. But we can't see the black hole.
I guess the same applies to Trump.
Now I'm just waiting for the white noise in this forum to chirp up....
"Prove that black holes exist".
Note: My comment is an established fact. Yours is an opinion. Whew.
@mghrn55 saidUntil last year I taught economics, but why get personal, MGH? If my 15 year old tells you what I told you, or I tell you what I told you, it is a fact, and my personal self is quite irrelevant.
A primer ????
You teach Bankruptcy 101 ??
Very good......π€£π€£π€£π€£
The libs are out in force this morning !!!!