@kevcvs57 saidBetter dead than red
Hey Myopic one the UK has been operating a system of socialised capitalism since the creation of the welfare state about 80 odd years and counting.
I realise it works for you right wing types to pretend it’s a choice between unfettered cowboy capitalism and Stalinism but it’s not. You really need to crawl out from your stoopid yank Cold War bunker and smell the ‘fair trade’ coffee
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@averagejoe1 saidIt's funny, Joe...
@kevcvs57
Let' say someone creates wealth in some way or another. Then, another guy creates his own wealth.
You fellers seem to be saying that there is a limit or limitation on the amount that can exist? Like that pie which everyone references all the time? That there is only so much pie that can go around? There can be no 'newly created' wealth?
An interest ...[text shortened]... more??
And this: How does the wealth of one person have anything to do with another person?
A businessman creates a product/service and sells it, and the profit - if there is one, is his paycheck. And the libs hate him.
Meanwhile, the government is FAR FAR richer than he, yet they create NOTHING, they get their money by stealing it. (taxes)
And the libs cheer.
@zahlanzi saidIn the employer/employee relationship, both are exploiting each other. You think the word 'exploit' is some kind of swear word? It's not.
"How does the wealth amassed by one person have anything to do with another person?"
You only amass billions through exploiting someone else
The employee exploits the employers need for their time, knowledge and skills.
The employer exploits the employees need for some cash.
@averagejoe1 saidThat article is from April. Since then that company has collapsed.
@AverageJoe1
Sorry I messed up Pillow Man post. Here it is, copied.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/us-politics/mike-lindell-net-worth-mypillow-donald-trump-supporter-b1072583.html#
So he has all this money, and creating a few hundred jobs.
Can you and Z be civil and lay out a better plan for our society to deal with a zillionaire who built a biz, took risk as Wajoma explains above?
A fun study,,,,standing by. This is your moment, you and Z!!
https://lavocedinewyork.com/en/news/2023/07/13/mypillow-guy-racks-up-debts-and-penalties-auctioning-off-part-of-company/
@earl-of-trumps said"LIAR"
@zahlanzi said you're not a libertarian <----- LIAR
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@zahlanzi said you're not free under a free market economy.
The Great Zucchini exhibits his firm grasp on the obvious
EoT -
no u
"The Great Zucchini exhibits his firm grasp on the obvious "
so you agree
@zahlanzi saidIn the employer/employee relationship, both are exploiting each other. You think the word 'exploit' is some kind of swear word? It's not.
"LIAR"
no u
"The Great Zucchini exhibits his firm grasp on the obvious "
so you agree
The employee exploits the employers need for their time, knowledge and skills.
The employer exploits the employees need for some cash.
@earl-of-trumps saidDo you think for a second that the libs get your nuance? Nice post. Wasted on me!!!
It's funny, Joe...
A businessman creates a product/service and sells it, and the profit - if there is one, is his paycheck. And the libs hate him.
Meanwhile, the government is FAR FAR richer than he, yet they create NOTHING, they get their money by stealing it. (taxes)
And the libs cheer.
@athousandyoung saidCould be, I don't do the research you fellers do.
That article is from April. Since then that company has collapsed.
https://lavocedinewyork.com/en/news/2023/07/13/mypillow-guy-racks-up-debts-and-penalties-auctioning-off-part-of-company/
He may be broke, but here again, I am using his success (when he WAS making millions) to make my premise,,,,,,about what to do about these rich people who make millions from a company that hires 200 People.
PLEASE be an interesting liberal, and tell us what you would do if there was a 'The Sweater Guy" on TV who is worth $100M and employs 300 employees.
And please tell us why your friends Kev and Wgrass and Vivify make discussions such as this so difficult. Should he be allowed to be rich and buy a villa in each Euro country and a yacht? Is it OK, or can you tell us why your friends just cannot stand it, when it has absolutely nothing to do with them.
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@averagejoe1 saidlol nuance? I thought I was being pretty blunt. They would never agree to a change after reading that post.
Do you think for a second that the libs get your nuance? Nice post. Wasted on me!!!
There is something that is clearly urging libs to hold businessmen in great contempt.
The libs love big government, not sure why
@earl-of-trumps saidWhy does the size of government, as measured by spending, grow more when conservatives are in charge?
lol nuance? I thought I was being pretty blunt. They would never agree to a change after reading that post.
There is something that is clearly urging libs to hold businessmen in great contempt.
The libs love big government, not sure why
@earl-of-trumps saidWell., the why is that if they put libs in office, they assume the libs will come thru on free stuff, meds, housing, food, access to everything, free college, free free. I thought I had made that clear. Free stuff will catapult the lib govt into office, which will happen in the end. Cat is out of the bag.
lol nuance? I thought I was being pretty blunt. They would never agree to a change after reading that post.
There is something that is clearly urging libs to hold businessmen in great contempt.
The libs love big government, not sure why
Ha! Look at that smile on Suzy's face. She can soon stop that job!!! See if the trans crowd will let you join their frisbee activities.
@wildgrass saidThe workings of government? Like Biden writing off 450B in revenues due from students? He is not a conservative, but he just threw 450B in the toilet. Same as spending, don't you know.
Why does the size of government, as measured by spending, grow more when conservatives are in charge?
(although he campaigned on being a moderate, which is a lie, by the way). Dam, I have forgotten the issue.
@wildgrass saidThey don't sound too conservative to me, bub.
Why does the size of government, as measured by spending, grow more when conservatives are in charge?