@averagejoe1 saidThey are both lies; do you expect us to correct the almost total disconnect from reality you right wingers live in?
Obama had FBI spy on Trump. My tax money. I am so ANGRY.
Obama weaponized the IRS ( Lois Lerner was in charge). Snooped on private info illegally.
Bad bad stuff Moonbus. Bad. Would you first clean that part of history up, and then we will discuss what you wrote.
IWhy don’t liberals bring out all facts around surrounding certain situations. You mention what you ...[text shortened]... he IRS or the FBI..... what is the deal with you people? I am just livid, I cud cry like libs do!
@no1marauder saidIt has been proven. YOU are the one lying.
They are both lies; do you expect us to correct the almost total disconnect from reality you right wingers live in?
@mott-the-hoople saidTrump was never spied on by the FBI.
It has been proven. YOU are the one lying.
Obama had nothing to do with the so-called IRS scandal which was a big nothing burger anyway.
@no1marauder saidType ‘six examples of Obama spying’ in google. Sorry, I just can’t be looking things up for you which are widely known. Oh, he lied a lot too. My granny is still aching over not getting that $2500/yr, and ending up having to PAY $2500. I’m not about to help her, for being so gullible.
Trump was never spied on by the FBI.
Obama had nothing to do with the so-called IRS scandal which was a big nothing burger anyway.
@sonhouse saidHow come you fellers hate rich people?
@AverageJoe1
Nice but you republicans don't really believe in ANY of that anymore.
Your party is in shambles, your party used to be called the 'law and order' party., Now it is anything BUT.
ALL they want is POWER, POWER and more POWER and FUK the democracy as an institution in the US.
Also repubs want to eliminate the EPA just like Trump, don't want those pesky sc ...[text shortened]... people's health, but who cares about THAT crap, MY 401K has DOUBLED THEREFORE the US is GREAT again.
@moonbus saidDo you have any idea how Obama used his AG Holder? Look THAT up.
Traditional conservative ideology claims to be against big government, to be in favor of de-regulation.
However, the Rep. party under Trump has taken an alarming turn towards authoritarianism. For example, Trump sent federal agents to do policework, against the express wishes of local and state authorities. For example, Trump turned the DoJ into his own private detective ...[text shortened]... Not a pretty prospect either way, but they brought it upon themselves by cowing down to a demagogue.
@no1marauder saidDo I expect you to correct? Well, you expect the populace to forever click on your (and Duchess&rsquo😉 plethora of links!!!!
They are both lies; do you expect us to correct the almost total disconnect from reality you right wingers live in?
@averagejoe1 saidCan we expect a thread from you quite soon railing against endless US wars for nothing more than other peoples' oil ??
Relying on no other source for energy.
That would also lower taxes ?
Are you onboard with that Mr Conservative ??
@averagejoe1 saidOff-topic. Take it to the thread about what Liberals believe.
Obama had FBI spy on Trump. My tax money. I am so ANGRY.
Obama weaponized the IRS ( Lois Lerner was in charge). Snooped on private info illegally.
Bad bad stuff Moonbus. Bad. Would you first clean that part of history up, and then we will discuss what you wrote.
IWhy don’t liberals bring out all facts around surrounding certain situations. You mention what you ...[text shortened]... he IRS or the FBI..... what is the deal with you people? I am just livid, I cud cry like libs do!
On topic here: Republicans support the criminalization of acts of kindness. For example, giving food and water to people who have been standing line for hours waiting to vote.
@caissad4 saidI’m thinking we never started a war, and the ones we entered were for good cause at the time. Good cause might be stopping communism. Many on this thread are favorable to communism, so why argue that,!?!?? Oil? Did we get Iraq oil after we hung Saddam Hussein?
Can we expect a thread from you quite soon railing against endless US wars for nothing more than other peoples' oil ??
That would also lower taxes ?
Are you onboard with that Mr Conservative ??
Don’t get your ‘lower taxes’. Don’t you fellers want higher taxes, mainly from people who make gobs of money while you aren’t prosperous. Why would you punish successful people?
@moonbus saidRepublicans think people should be self-sufficientl, resourceful. Take their water and condiments for the line,
Off-topic. Take it to the thread about what Liberals believe.
On topic here: Republicans support the criminalization of acts of kindness. For example, giving food and water to people who have been standing line for hours waiting to vote.
My my, you fellers keep confirming that you are a dependent lot. You actually depend on some stranger to give (for free?] you water. Like, you depend on me, a stranger, to give money to the government for your use.
Something tells me that you TOOK some checks from the govt over the last months. I didn’t. And the money you got........was from me. Happy? You’re welcome.
@no1marauder saidand pink elephants fly. You are looking ridiculous.
Trump was never spied on by the FBI.
Obama had nothing to do with the so-called IRS scandal which was a big nothing burger anyway.
@mott-the-hoople saidI'm sure he will say he was wrong!
and pink elephants fly. You are looking ridiculous.
@averagejoe1 saidHey !! It's the right that is blathering on about the elites, big tech, etc...
How come you fellers hate rich people?
Those are the rich.......
GOP has always been on the side of the wealthy, and the elite.
Now they "stand" for the working class.
The problem with the conservatives is that there has been a change in the makeup of the elites.
Free market Capitalism has done well for the liberals.
Look at the top dogs.... Gates, Musk, Zuckerberg ..... liberals !!
One might think that liberals are better at the free market Capitalism game.
They didn't get to where they are by thinking like conservatives.
A major trait in liberal thought is to think outside the box. That doesn't exist to the same extent in conservatism.
Conservatism is stuck in traditionalism.....
Let's not think out side the box....
Let's not try something new. Let's keep things the way they are....
Let's not think forward. Let's think in the past ......
The very platforms upon which you spout your fear of change, social media, internet, all your amazing devices that you use, are the product of thinking outside the box.....Liberal mindset......
Those are the rich people that you despise, yet claim that the liberals hate.....
In 1917 Soviet Union, they were called the bourgeois.
In 2021 America, they are called the elites.
Semantics !!
@mghrn55 saidActually this is a very good observation, with some truth in it. We are definitely more traditional, for instance Good post. I take exception to GOP siding with wealthy, aint true
Hey !! It's the right that is blathering on about the elites, big tech, etc...
Those are the rich.......
GOP has always been on the side of the wealthy, and the elite.
Now they "stand" for the working class.
The problem with the conservatives is that there has been a change in the makeup of the elites.
Free market Capitalism has done well for the liberals.
Look at t ...[text shortened]... t Union, they were called the bourgeois.
In 2021 America, they are called the elites.
Semantics !!
But my question.....why do libs deride hell out of successful people?