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@no1marauder saidbecause of corruption concerns (as biden proved). Ukraine wasnt even aware that aid was being delayed.
Fine, quote a source showing that the Trump administration gave the Ukrainians and Congress, including Mitch McConnell, a reason for holding up the military aid already authorized by Congress.
Volker's testimony should be released fairly soon anyway and then it will be shown your dishonest strategy of ignoring anything not written on the right wing blogosphere when it suits you doesn't work in this (or any) case.
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@mott-the-hoople saidThe only "corruption concerns" ever mentioned was Trump's insistence on having a foreign nation start an investigation into one of the Donald's domestic political rivals (who was beating him badly in early polling). And Volker's testimony, Rudy's texts and even the memorandum of the phone call (where Javelin missiles are mentioned and Trump immediately "asks for a favor" ) prove that Ukraine was perfectly aware that the aid was being withheld.
because of corruption concerns (as biden proved). Ukraine wasnt even aware that aid was being delayed.
You really need to stop swallowing lies hook, line and sinker.
EDIT: " Ukraine’s president says no one explained to him why U.S. military aid to his country was delayed.
President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told reporters Tuesday that he stressed the importance of the military aid repeatedly in discussions with President Donald Trump, but “it wasn’t explained to me” why the money didn’t come through until September."
https://time.com/5690364/ukraine-president-us-aid-delayed/
@mott-the-hoople saidMore right wing lies and obfuscations .
because of corruption concerns (as biden proved). Ukraine wasnt even aware that aid was being delayed.
Josef Goebbels would be proud of you .
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@no1marauder saidyou present proof of no quid pro quo... good job.
The only "corruption concerns" ever mentioned was Trump's insistence on having a foreign nation start an investigation into one of the Donald's domestic political rivals (who was beating him badly in early polling). And Volker's testimony, Rudy's texts and even the memorandum of the phone call (where Javelin missiles are mentioned and Trump immediately "asks for a favor" ...[text shortened]... didn’t come through until September."
https://time.com/5690364/ukraine-president-us-aid-delayed/
And he wasnt aware of this at the time of the phone call.
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@mott-the-hoople saidYou have a rather bizarre lack of understanding.
you present proof of no quid pro quo... good job.
And he wasnt aware of this at the time of the phone call.
Gordon Sondland, US Ambassador to the EU, said in a text on July 19th: "I spike (sic) directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. He's got it."
Bill Taylor, Ambassador to the Ukraine, said in a text on July 21st: "Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about yesterday was Sasha Danyliuk's point that President Zelensky is sensitive about Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington domestic, reelection politics".
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/3/20898182/impeachment-volker-texts-ukraine-sondland-taylor
Zelensky knew what Trump was up to and so do you.
@no1marauder saidyes I do...Barr and Durham are going to let the world know very soon.
You have a rather bizarre lack of understanding.
Gordon Sondland, US Ambassador to the EU, said in a text on July 19th: "I spike (sic) directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. He's got it."
Bill Taylor, Ambassador to the Ukraine, said in a text on July 21st: "Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about yesterday was Sasha Danyliuk's point that President Zele ...[text shortened]... mpeachment-volker-texts-ukraine-sondland-taylor
Zelensky knew what Trump was up to and so do you.
@mott-the-hoople saidGee, I remember how you kept telling me IG Horowitz's report of the HRC e-mail investigation was going to be a real blockbuster exposing the criminal corruption of the "Democrats". Instead:
yes I do...Barr and Durham are going to let the world know very soon.
We found no evidence that the
conclusions by the prosecutors were affected by bias or
other improper considerations; rather, we determined
that they were based on the prosecutors’ assessment of
the facts, the law, and past Department practice.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download
Good times, weren't they?
@no1marauder saidI remember you downplaying “whataboutism”!
Gee, I remember how you kept telling me IG Horowitz's report of the HRC e-mail investigation was going to be a real blockbuster exposing the criminal corruption of the "Democrats". Instead:
We found no evidence that the
conclusions by the prosecutors were affected by bias or
other improper considerations; rather, we determined
that they were based on the prosecutor ...[text shortened]... t Department practice.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download
Good times, weren't they?
Clintons emails situation is not over yet.
@mott-the-hoople saidI am sure that in 20 or 30 years they just might find some loose change under the couch cushions .
I remember you downplaying “whataboutism”!
Clintons emails situation is not over yet.
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Actually, there WAS Quid Pro Quo and that truth is coming out as we speak.
AND it doesn't matter if there was QPQ, what is illegal is the REQUEST for such help for a sitting POTUS to ASK for help from a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent whether they comply with such a request or not. Whether that is a dem or a repub POTUS. Do you really get that part? Or are you so hypnotized by being a Trumpite you cannot see that part at all?
@mott-the-hoople saidI worry about you.
yes I do...Barr and Durham are going to let the world know very soon.