Democrats Killing Democracy in the US

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Nope, but a vote can be turned in and the final count will still align with the voter rolls as far as the numbers

Can, but don't. There are methods for detecting this, if you cared to look into it. But obviously you don't care because it's been 10 years of Trump carrying on with this dumb lie and everyone still repeats it.

Getting caught committing voter fraud carries huge penalties for little benefit to that individual. People very rarely do it.

The Heritage Foundation has a website that tracks these things. Since 1997, they document 19 cases where someone voted on behalf of a dead person. Earl says the real number is 100,000 per election cycle in a single state? You're both insane.

@wildgrass said
It's laid out clearly in the Breitbart article that Earl posted to start this thread.

Apparently you and Earl didn't read it?

Also important to note that this is the 9th time in a row that this executive order has been slapped out of court. So it's not a lib or conservative thing, it's just plain illegal.

"It's laid out clearly in the Breitbart article that Earl posted to start this thread."

no its not...breitbart is citing what the judge said...hence " Sooknanan, an immigrant from Trinidad and Tobago, wrote:"

why dont you tell me how the save act violates anyones privacy?

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Don’t try to hedge here…


How is the save act in violation of law?

I just explained; the SAVE Act was never passed and has nothing to do with the case obviously.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
"It's laid out clearly in the Breitbart article that Earl posted to start this thread."

no its not...breitbart is citing what the judge said...hence " Sooknanan, an immigrant from Trinidad and Tobago, wrote:"

why dont you tell me how the save act violates anyones privacy?

I'll go with what the Judge wrote verbatim (and each of the previous judges appointed by other presidents who have also heard the State's arguments).

Now you explain why the Judge's words are wrong without saying Biden or immigrant.

@vivify said
The issue being blocked by the judge is The SAVE Act creating a database of American social security numbers.

Actually it's software called the SAVE Program, not the SAVE Act.

Either way, dumbass didn't read article.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
are you stupid enough to think there isnt a data base of SS numbers?

It's adorable you're trying to rescue your conservative friend, but that's not what he highlighted in his OP, is it?

If he wanted to to discuss social security numbers being stored, he should've read the article and discussed that.

@Earl-of-Trumps said
Dumb question, dude.

The dems will arrange to have someone vote in that name.
That is why we need to have voter ID

Remember sir when (In an hour-long phone call) Trump pressed Georgia secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, to “find” enough votes to overturn Joe Biden’s victory there?

'I just want 11,780 votes,' he said. (Dead or alive I'm guessing).

@vivify said
Actually it's software called the SAVE Program, not the SAVE Act.

Either way, dumbass didn't read article.

It appears you are the one that didnt read, or understand...

you wrote;
"The issue being blocked by the judge is The SAVE Act creating a database of American social security numbers."

now you write;
"Actually it's software called the SAVE Program, not the SAVE Act. "

pitiful fools, the lot of you

and the judge cites the issue being about privacy, not a database

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Remember sir when (In an hour-long phone call) Trump pressed Georgia secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, to “find” enough votes to overturn Joe Biden’s victory there?

'I just want 11,780 votes,' he said. (Dead or alive I'm guessing).

seems you come up short again...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/11/26/trump-georgia-election-interference-charges-dropped/87481504007/

@Mott-The-Hoople said
seems you come up short again...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/11/26/trump-georgia-election-interference-charges-dropped/87481504007/

By Trump's own DoJ!!!

Why can't you get it through your head that Trump AND his entire administration are corrupt?

Because he says they're not?

Trumpublicans are in thrall to a madman.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
It appears you are the one that didnt read, or understand...

you wrote;
"The issue being blocked by the judge is The SAVE Act creating a database of American social security numbers."

now you write;
"Actually it's software called the SAVE Program, not the SAVE Act. "

pitiful fools, the lot of you

and the judge cites the issue being about privacy, not a database

Unlike you, we don't take what this government says seriously.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Remember sir when (In an hour-long phone call) Trump pressed Georgia secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, to “find” enough votes to overturn Joe Biden’s victory there?

'I just want 11,780 votes,' he said. (Dead or alive I'm guessing).

This is cause enough to disbelieve anything Trump says.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
It appears you are the one that didnt read, or understand...

you wrote;
"The issue being blocked by the judge is The SAVE Act creating a database of American social security numbers."

now you write;
"Actually it's software called the SAVE Program, not the SAVE Act. "

pitiful fools, the lot of you

and the judge cites the issue being about privacy, not a database

So...what? All I got the was the name slightly wrong. Your point?

The judge believes the SAVE program creating a database is a violation of privacy.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
It appears you are the one that didnt read, or understand...

you wrote;
"The issue being blocked by the judge is The SAVE Act creating a database of American social security numbers."

now you write;
"Actually it's software called the SAVE Program, not the SAVE Act. "

pitiful fools, the lot of you

and the judge cites the issue being about privacy, not a database

To clear up the confusion, the system in question is called the :" Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE)". As the name implies, it was used to verify whether alien applicants were eligible for Federal entitlement programs. But:

" The 2025 SAVE overhaul modified the system in three major ways: (1) to include the records of natural born citizens, (2) to access SSA records, including Social Security numbers, and (3) to permit bulk searches of records by SAVE users."

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2025cv3501-111 at p. 2

The court found that both the Social Security Act and Privacy Act do not permit the Feds to disclose information under the SSA to the States (the whole purpose of the EO was to replace State voter registration lists with an approved Federal database). The EO tried to do this:

"the Executive Order specifically directs SSA to make its databases available “to all State and local election officials” for verifying voter eligibility. Id. at 14,007 (DHS AR 336). at 11.

But the Executive cannot repeal provisions enacted by Congress at the President's whim.

@vivify said
So...what? All I got the was the name slightly wrong. Your point?

The judge believes the SAVE program creating a database is a violation of privacy.

Now that I told you, you are now telling me? 😂