@no1marauder said“…..the court? What has court got to with this discussion? Let’s take a 10 minute break….
The question presumes the BOE broke the law.
They did not as I've explained to you for 11 pages now. As I responded to Mott on the last page:
"no matter what sloppy reporting says, there was no clear command from the PA Supreme Count that those ballots couldn't be counted, just a stay of a prior order by an appellate court that they had to be counted. That arguably ...[text shortened]... itics/live-news/trump-transition-news-11-18-24#cm3nfgjb9000b3b6nj3a4r1mp) would have been avoided. "
@AverageJoe1 saidMott….. maybe you can tell us why he leans on what a court, or lawyers, might opine.
“…..the court? What has court got to with this discussion? Let’s take a 10 minute break….
If a Boy Scout troop makes a rule to finish wrapping an arrowhead on a shaft with sinew, and the arrowhead of Joey is Not wrapped with sinew,, his arrow is not allowed in the arrow competition. He is not allowed, no matter WHAT the elders, the scout leaders, say. The rule is the rule. A scout leader like Marauder says he thinks the rule should not be applied!!
Please see if you can get an answer on this from Marauder, he is avoiding me big time. Oh, tell him there are no courts in the forest.
@no1marauder saidFor instance, here Marauder likens a flat-out Rule/Law, written in stone, to propaganda. Jesus.
It's been sufficiently explained to you, moron, with the actual Orders of the Court linked to.
One of the problems with right wingers of your ilk is that they are sooooooooooo stupid and gullible that they believe whatever propaganda they are fed without question or willingness to check on the facts themselves. And then when the actual facts are presented, they stubbor ...[text shortened]... ................................ who knows?
This is a perfect example of such mental limitations.
I don’t know how he expects Sue and McHill to follow all his own propaganda.
Geez
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@AverageJoe1 saidIt's a court created interpretation that you are yapping about, as you would know if you either:
Mott….. maybe you can tell us why he leans on what a court, or lawyers, might opine.
If a Boy Scout troop makes a rule to finish wrapping an arrowhead on a shaft with sinew, and the arrowhead of Joey is Not wrapped with sinew,, his arrow is not allowed in the arrow competition. He is not allowed, no matter WHAT the elders, the scout leaders, say. The rule is ...[text shortened]... this from Marauder, he is avoiding me big time. Oh, tell him there are no courts in the forest.
A) Read the links I have provided; and/or
B) Weren't so stupid you can't understand them.
The statute does not provide that undated or misdated ballots don't count as I have shown multiple times. It is silent on what happens if a voter makes such a trivial error.
I've constantly answered your idiotic posts, but it's an obvious waste of time since you can't actually comprehend what really happened.
@AverageJoe1 saidNo, I think it is an unconstitutional violation of your right to vote.
“Hey sue and everyone, the voting rules require that a ballot be signed. I think that is ridiculous. I think that they should be counted anyway.”
I am sorry to appear silly on the Forum, but, …. This is Marauder-think.
It's even worse in this case because the statute doesn't say that the ballot shouldn't be counted and only court decisions dodging the constitutional question in PA have led to such a result.
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@AverageJoe1 saidmarerider is wrong and he/she knows it…just doesnt have the balls to admit he/she is wrong.
Mott….. maybe you can tell us why he leans on what a court, or lawyers, might opine.
If a Boy Scout troop makes a rule to finish wrapping an arrowhead on a shaft with sinew, and the arrowhead of Joey is Not wrapped with sinew,, his arrow is not allowed in the arrow competition. He is not allowed, no matter WHAT the elders, the scout leaders, say. The rule is ...[text shortened]... this from Marauder, he is avoiding me big time. Oh, tell him there are no courts in the forest.
doesnt understand lower court vs higher court…one of the first things a lawyer lesrns
@AverageJoe1 saidAgain, tell me how many are involved and would they swing an election and if they are illegal why do you think they would not be challenged in court later?
I cannot answer your two questions, which again have nothing to do with this issue. The bitching I am doing is about an appointed elected group of people who blatantly ignore a law, which says certain ballots cannot be counted… And yet they say they are going to count them anyway.
My 11 year-old grandson, saw the issue immediately and said that they should not count ...[text shortened]... re not signed? Do you and marauder think that they should be counted anyway if they were not signed?
But you have no problem with Trump loading up vote counters with election deniers just in case Trump had lost do you?
@sonhouse saidAgain? I just told you I don’t know, little feller.
Again, tell me how many are involved and would they swing an election and if they are illegal why do you think they would not be challenged in court later?
But you have no problem with Trump loading up vote counters with election deniers just in case Trump had lost do you?
@Mott-The-Hoople saidAsk him again, should unsigned ballots be discarded? Why?
marerider is wrong and he/she knows it…just doesnt have the balls to admit he/she is wrong.
doesnt understand lower court vs higher court…one of the first things a lawyer lesrns
@AverageJoe1 saidIf you don't know if elections are lost or won by these counts why are you bitching about them?
Again? I just told you I don’t know, little feller.
@sonhouse said? Silly fella. Your sentence, transposed, says that I bitch about elections. That is not my bitch, but I will play….
If you don't know if elections are lost or won by these counts why are you bitching about them?
Tell everyone one a few of the sentences of mine which you regard as bitching ‘about elections’. You’re a good man.
Don’t say Trump. It/he is not relevant
You are as far afield as is Marauder, who picks pet elements of voting rules, suggesting we avoid others.
@no1marauder saidYou toy with words. It says the ballot must be dated, and, oh, signed.
It's a court created interpretation that you are yapping about, as you would know if you either:
A) Read the links I have provided; and/or
B) Weren't so stupid you can't understand them.
The statute does not provide that undated or misdated ballots don't count as I have shown multiple times. It is silent on what happens if a voter makes such a trivial error.
I ...[text shortened]... c posts, but it's an obvious waste of time since you can't actually comprehend what really happened.
You pick ONE of the ‘musts’, but not the other. Do you have Sue writing your posts?
@AverageJoe1 saidWhat the FUUK is your problem? Your god won so get on with the ruination of our country, voter issues will be a thing of the past and you know it as soon as Trump fuuks it up so bad there won't BE any voting any more, just show votes like in Russia, where Putin gets 98% of the vote. WOW, So united there.
You toy with words. It says the ballot must be dated, and, oh, signed.
You pick ONE of the ‘musts’, but not the other. Do you have Sue writing your posts?
Just like it will be here if Trump gets his way.
BTW, you and your buddies kept harping on Trump disavowing Project 2025 but here we have Vought getting a choice job, manager of budget.
So when he totally fuuks ALL of us including people using the AFA and medicare and SS, which this traitor wants to kill YOU personally will be effected not to mention the coming loss of freedoms even YOU will feel, suppose one of your daughters gets pregnant and needs an abortion to save her life, what will you do? Run her down to Mexico?
Because YOU personally will be effected by the coming purges of freedom here in the US.
I bet you don't even know who Vought is do you?
Try googling Vough and Project 2025 and THEN tell me how much Trump is disavowing Project 2025.
You people are SO deluded you can't see straight any more if you ever COULD see straight in the first place.
@sonhouse saidwas Trump democratically elected?
What the FUUK is your problem? Your god won so get on with the ruination of our country, voter issues will be a thing of the past and you know it as soon as Trump fuuks it up so bad there won't BE any voting any more, just show votes like in Russia, where Putin gets 98% of the vote. WOW, So united there.
Just like it will be here if Trump gets his way.
BTW, you and you ...[text shortened]... le are SO deluded you can't see straight any more if you ever COULD see straight in the first place.