@no1marauder saidIn your last sentence above you have ‘ “meaningless date”.
To clarify, any government action which burdens a fundamental rights must:
A) Further a compelling government interest;
B) Must be narrowly tailored to advance that interest; and
C) Be the least restrictive means to further that interest.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/strict_scrutiny
Now tell me how taking away your right to vote because you forgot to write a meaningless date on an envelope meets any of those criteria.
If Mott and I look up some of this stuff, where do we find confirmation that the requirement for a date is meaningless, it changes all of these posts.
Direct us to this nugget, please.
My granny says all voting should occur on the same Tuesday between nine and three, with no dating required, but she quotes no source.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidWhat?? Another GOP seat?!? I will update my prediction thread.
It's all moot.
Sen. Bob Casey concedes Pennsylvania Senate race to Republican Dave McCormick
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/politics/pennsylvania-senate-race-casey-concedes/index.html
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@AverageJoe1 saidI quoted a source which I'm sure you were too lazy to check;
In your last sentence above you have ‘ “meaningless date”.
If Mott and I look up some of this stuff, where do we find confirmation that the requirement for a date is meaningless, it changes all of these posts.
Direct us to this nugget, please.
My granny says all voting should occur on the same Tuesday between nine and three, with no dating required, but she quotes no source.
Tuesday, November 5, 2024Deadline to return your mail ballot. It must be received by your county by 8 p.m.
https://vote.pa/info/
The date itself on the envelope isn't relevant to when it is received by the BOE. Making its omission or some error on it disqualifying serves no purpose but to disenfranchise voters who make a trivial error.
Maybe you could tell me what "compelling governmental interest" a date that doesn't matter on an envelope serves.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYes, but every ballot gets a postmark.
you people are just ignorant
“Each state establishes by law the rules and requirements for ballot submission, including ballot-submission deadlines and the role, if any, that postmarks play in determining whether a ballot was timely. In the normal course of operations, the Postal Service does not postmark, or “cancel” every piece of mail in the system. The p ...[text shortened]... e precanceled before they enter the mailstream.
https://about.usps.com/kits/kit600/kit600_039.htm
We take our jobs very seriously. We take an oath of office too.
I wouldn't be talking about ignorance if I were you.
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@Suzianne saidIn PA, the postmark doesn't matter; if the ballot is received by the BOE after the deadline it isn't counted no matter what date the voter puts on the envelope or any postmark by the US Mail or other agencies.
Yes, but every ballot gets a postmark.
We take our jobs very seriously. We take an oath of office too.
I wouldn't be talking about ignorance if I were you.
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@no1marauder saidI seem to recall USPS postmarks being used as proof of date of receipt in the past.
In PA, the postmark doesn't matter; if the ballot is received by the BOE after the deadline it isn't counted no matter what date the voter puts on the envelope or any postmark by the US Mail or other agencies.
It shouldn't have changed any since then.
Granted, delivery times have extended since the Trump-appointed PMG changed standards. But many corporations and other legal entities have used postmarks in this fashion before.
For instance, as long as your tax return (another thing we religiously postmark) is postmarked on the last date of acceptance by the IRS, they will accept it, even if the postmark was applied at 11:55pm.
Granted, most voting requirements also require a time to beat as well as the date, so this is not always germane for ballots. So, as written, your statement is, of course, true.
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@no1marauder saidnot only in PA…EVERY ,election has an end, no input required from the voter, totally irrelevant to the validity of a ballot.
In PA, the postmark doesn't matter; if the ballot is received by the BOE after the deadline it isn't counted no matter what date the voter puts on the envelope or any postmark by the US Mail or other agencies.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYes, thanks for supporting my point.
not only in PA…EVERY ,election has an end, no input required from the voter, totally irrelevant to the validity of a ballot.
The date the voter puts on the envelope doesn't matter.
@Suzianne saidThat ‘postmark’ is not the date that the law of counting votes are referring to, you purposely are trying to confuse us, My granny could just scream!! (Her word).
Yes, but every ballot gets a postmark.
We take our jobs very seriously. We take an oath of office too.
I wouldn't be talking about ignorance if I were you.
The date is something the voter fills in. You can’t kid a kidder,
Maybe you and No1 should join forces on this one.
@no1marauder saidThe law, of which we speak, that voter fills in a blank with a date does not go into ‘what matters!!
In PA, the postmark doesn't matter; if the ballot is received by the BOE after the deadline it isn't counted no matter what date the voter puts on the envelope or any postmark by the US Mail or other agencies.
You will not beat me down. Although Sue is wearing me out!
The law does Not say that one cannot vote on a cereal box-top either, so,,,,, can they?
Your logic says that they can vote on a box top.
Find those goal posts !!!! Punt!!
@no1marauder saidBut whether ‘it matters’ is not the issue, is it. Spooky stuff from the No1.
Yes, thanks for supporting my point.
The date the voter puts on the envelope doesn't matter.
@no1marauder saidPA SC says it does…is you dumb or what?
Yes, thanks for supporting my point.
The date the voter puts on the envelope doesn't matter.
@AverageJoe1
You mean kinda like Trump getting away with theft of hundreds of TS docs or the multimillion dollar fine for fraud from his 34 felonies?
Ok for Trump to bypass laws but if a dem dares the same OFF WITH HIS HEAD.
@sonhouse saidAAAAAARRRRzeFGGHHH!!!!!
@AverageJoe1
You mean kinda like Trump getting away with theft of hundreds of TS docs or the multimillion dollar fine for fraud from his 34 felonies?
Ok for Trump to bypass laws but if a dem dares the same OFF WITH HIS HEAD.
This issue could be your opportunity to shine and you revert to Eisenhowe??!?!?!!