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Denmark finally acts on mixing cultures.

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
It's a positive example of someone's personal kindness to another.
Got nothing to do with their culture/religion.
Charity and kindness is one of the 5 pillars of Islam you muppet.


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Charity and kindness is one of the 5 pillars of Islam you muppet.
How many Islamic charity organizations are there?


@Cliff-Mashburn said
How many Islamic charity organizations are there?
Zakat, the third of the five pillars of Islam, is an obligatory form of almsgiving for Muslims who are able to and possess wealth above a certain threshold.. - Eligible Muslims must pay 2.5% of their wealth to the needy.

Do you do that? - And even if you do, isn't that particular Muslim practice a positive influence on society?


@Rajk999 said
There is a benefit in letting in some for the sake of variety, and for the locals to see how another culture lives, but they must not cross say 2% of the population. After that it gets dangerous.
See how another culture lives? We do that at the zoo.
And as to seeing how they live, , I don't have to taste gasolline to know I am not going to like it. I am not going to lke it.
Here is some helpful info so you know about your new neighbors

Harmful practices rooted in culture, not Islam
Certain practices wrongly associated with Islam are, in fact, cultural traditions that predate or are separate from the religion itself.
Women's oppression
Forced marriages: This practice is expressly forbidden in Islam, which stipulates that a woman's consent is a necessary condition for a valid marriage contract.
"Honor killings": This barbaric act is a tribal custom rooted in shame-based cultures and is condemned by Islam. In fact, Islam's first reforms included abolishing the pre-Islamic practice of burying infant daughters alive.
Female Genital Mutilation (FGM): This is a cultural practice found in various societies across Africa, Asia, and the Middle East, including some Muslim communities. However, it is not prescribed by Islam and is condemned by international human rights organizations and many Muslim scholars.
Denying women education: Some cultures have historically discouraged or forbidden women from seeking an education. However, Islam places a strong emphasis on the acquisition of knowledge for all believers, both male and female.
Exclusion from mosques: While some cultural traditions limit or restrict women's access to mosques, this practice is not based on Islamic teachings. The Prophet Muhammad actively encouraged and welcomed women to the mosque.
Social injustice
Racism and tribal arrogance: Islam prohibits all forms of racism and ethnic superiority. The Quran teaches that humanity was created from a single pair and that differences in tribes and nations are for the purpose of mutual acquaintance, not hierarchy.
Un-Islamic inheritance laws: Some cultural inheritance customs may exclude women or other family members, contradicting the specific and detailed inheritance laws outlined in the Quran, which give women explicit rights.
Extravagant weddings and dowry demands: Islamic teachings favor modesty and simplicity in marriage celebrations. The practice of demanding an exorbitant dowry (which differs from the Islamic mahr, a gift given by the groom to the bride) is a cultural custom and can place an undue burden on families.
Superstitious practices
Worship at graves and shrines: While visiting graves for remembrance is permissible, the practice of seeking blessings or intercession from deceased saints or religious figures is a form of polytheism (shirk) and is strictly prohibited in Islam.
Wearing talismans (taweez): The belief that amulets or talismans can offer protection or ward off evil is also a form of shirk and is forbidden in Islam, which emphasizes seeking protection only from God.
How to differentiate Islam from cultural practice
For Muslims, differentiating between the religion and cultural norms is a matter of turning to the primary religious sources: the Quran and the Sunnah (the teachings and practices of the Prophet Muhammad). When a cultural practice contradicts these foundational texts, it is rejected by orthodox Islamic teaching.
This distinction is not always straightforward, as culture and religion influence each other. However, raising awareness about the difference is critical for addressing problems within Muslim communities and countering misconceptions from the outside.
Islam and culture: Don't mix them up - MinnPost
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@Cliff-Mashburn said
Minnesota, of course.
Are they eating pets, too?


@AverageJoe1 said
Suzianne influence permeates all posts!
Everyone will recall that I have railed on about mixing cultures for years. Finally, the media is listening to average Joe. Maybe they will begin to use analogies such as mine, where the farmer puts horses in the same barnyard with goats. Libs will argue that it is OK cause they all have four legs. But the same libs would not let ...[text shortened]... p out in their front yard and use the kitchen and the bathroom.
They are our brothers youknow.
Only you would describe humans as animals. Typical Trumpublicanism.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
What exactly are the benefits of bringing muslim culture into any Western European society?
Their food? Clothing? Religion? Music? Art? Treatment of women?
What?
Diversity is as American as it gets.

You hate America.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
Oh Boy, here come more Muslims from the Middle East and Africa into our community, said no one ever.
Oh Boy, here come more racist rednecks from Mississippi and Alabama into our community, said no one ever.


@Rajk999 said
There is a benefit in letting in some for the sake of variety, and for the locals to see how another culture lives, but they must not cross say 2% of the population. After that it gets dangerous.
Hmmmm, ghetto quotas.

Where, o where, have we seen this before?

Nazi Germany in Poland, after the occupation in 1939.

And here you are, suggesting it again.

Disgusting.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
The UK is finding that out with loudspeakers announcing call to prayer 5 times a day starting at 5AM.....Not to mention clogging the streets when a thousand of them gather to kneel shuck and jive for Allah. Eeeew.
Your racism is ... disturbing.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
I just picked examples from what you guys care about, your teeth and coffee. Do you know anything about Muslim history and culture, outside of YouTube?

I have an elderly client, for example, who has a hot meal brought to him every evening by his Muslim neighbour. It's an act of charity and kindness at the very heart of Islam which teaches that neighbours should be ...[text shortened]... at? Do you even care?

Is that a valid example of a positive influence of Muslim culture/religion?
Kudos, and I have many similar stories, but my advice would probably be closer to "don't waste your time with these people". They've been told what to believe and they aren't going to stop. They have no direct experience with Muslims, so they buy into whatever hateful thing they get off X and Truth Social.

They're eating your pets, don't you know.







EDIT: I know, I know. I have more posts here than you. I guess I just couldn't stand all the blatant white superiority in this thread.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
How many Islamic charity organizations are there?
For your information, I put your question to Google AI and got this back in response. Read it and weep (I know you will).


"There is no single, definitive global number for Islamic charity organizations, but a significant number exist. In the United States alone, there are 4,173 Islamic nonprofit organizations. The total number of Islamic charities worldwide is likely much higher and is difficult to track comprehensively due to the vast number of local, regional, and international groups, as well as the broad definition of "charity" which includes both formal organizations and individual acts of giving.

"United States: There are 4,173 Islamic nonprofit organizations in the U.S.
Arizona: As an example of a state-level number, Arizona has 53 Islamic nonprofit organizations.
Global scope: While specific global statistics are not available, the sheer number of organizations in a single country suggests the worldwide total is substantial. Islamic charity is a pillar of the faith, practiced through both formal organizations and individual acts of giving, making a comprehensive count challenging."

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@AverageJoe1 said
Racism and tribal arrogance: Islam prohibits all forms of racism and ethnic superiority. The Quran teaches that humanity was created from a single pair and that differences in tribes and nations are for the purpose of mutual acquaintance, not hierarchy.
I imagine this alone makes them abhorrent to you, as well as a danger to you, a white male in a white male oriented society.

Tell us again what Trump and Kirk think about them.

This must be why you compared them to animals in the first line of your post.


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Zakat, the third of the five pillars of Islam, is an obligatory form of almsgiving for Muslims who are able to and possess wealth above a certain threshold.. - Eligible Muslims must pay 2.5% of their wealth to the needy.

Do you do that? - And even if you do, isn't that particular Muslim practice a positive influence on society?
Zakat is compulsory charity Muslims give to other Muslims. There is another one Sadaqah, which is optional and can be given to anyone. Muslim charitable organisations mostly serve other Muslims in need. Very rarely do they give charity to unbelievers.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
The UK is finding that out with loudspeakers announcing call to prayer 5 times a day starting at 5AM.....Not to mention clogging the streets when a thousand of them gather to kneel shuck and jive for Allah. Eeeew.
There are easy ways to stop these things but I guess the British will have to learn the hard way.