@Cliff-Mashburn saidA couple points here worth considering. Those are overall figures and if the city figures are taken as a % of the city's population, the figure is as high as 50% Muslim, or foreigners, in some cities. This is why many cities have foreign mayors.
They take over entire cites or whatever area of a city they infest.
They have government influence in policies far above what their numbers should allow because of left wing dooshbag politicians.
Also white women aren't safe around them and they are constantly sexually harassing and raping them.
As far as taking over is concerned, there are the supporters of Islam and haters of western culture and society who will post these misleading figures to show that there is no taking over going on. The truth is a figure of 5% Islam is enough to subvert a democracy, because :
- A small violent group ready to terrorize the local people
- Judiciary/politicians who are keen to protect immigrants
- Very rich people providing Muslims with support, both financial and in kind
- Young college liberals who hate the present culture and are easily influenced by socialist college lecturers
10% Islam is more than enough to bring about undesirable changes.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidThe OT in the Bible is not the teachings of Jesus Christ which Christians follow. The OT is the writings followed by Judaism. Even so the OT does not condone the killing of unbelievers.
But all those things can also be found in the OT, no?
' If you dont have the gumption to state this fact then it says something about your personality.'
If it did then Christians would be killing people all over the world, when the only religion practicing this right now is Islam.
@Rajk999 saidDid Jesus disown the OT or quote from it? - Did he consider it God's authoritative word?
The OT in the Bible is not the teachings of Jesus Christ which Christians follow. The OT is the writings followed by Judaism. Even so the OT does not condone the killing of unbelievers.
If it did then Christians would be killing people all over the world, when the only religion practicing this right now is Islam.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidThe OT is a big book and all of it is Gods authorative word. However there are parts that Jesus
Did Jesus disown the OT or quote from it? - Did he consider it God's authoritative word?
- accepted and followed
- did not accept neither did he follow
- modified, and preached his version.
Some examples:
- the woman caught in adultery - she is not to be stoned
- when preached to others and they do not accept your teachings - move on and leave them alone
- the sabbath - Jesus said there are more important things such as charity
- Moses teaching on divorce. Jesus preached a modified version.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidIm pretty sure you know that is a parable and not an instruction to go and kill anyone.
Well, what about the NT? - Luke 19:27:
"But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
@Rajk999 saidRight now, but what about historically?
If it did then Christians would be killing people all over the world, when the only religion practicing this right now is Islam.
From Cortés to Columbus, all the conquistadors were Christian no? Used their religion to assert their own supremacy, slaughter the inhabitants of the lands they conquered? - Deaths estimated at 56 million or more.
And don't even get me started on the Atlantic slave trade...
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidOf course it does. God has the authority and ability to destroy unbelievers. In no part of the bible does he grant anyone that right.
But it does represent a future judgment on those who reject His rule,
Apparently in Islam, Muslims are instructed to kill unbelievers.
I hope you can see the difference.
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@Rajk999 saidExactly.
A couple points here worth considering. Those are overall figures and if the city figures are taken as a % of the city's population, the figure is as high as 50% Muslim, or foreigners, in some cities. This is why many cities have foreign mayors.
As far as taking over is concerned, there are the supporters of Islam and haters of western culture and society who will post ...[text shortened]... by socialist college lecturers
10% Islam is more than enough to bring about undesirable changes.
There are hundred of videos of London, Paris, European cities that show what has happened to them. I'd post them but everyone here would just shrug and say they are fake.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidWhat does history have to do with anything? Im beginning to wonder about you. I though your brain worked well.
Right now, but what about historically?
From Cortés to Columbus, all the conquistadors were Christian no? Used their religion to assert their own supremacy, slaughter the inhabitants of the lands they conquered? - Deaths estimated at 56 million or more.
And don't even get me started on the Atlantic slave trade...
The BIBLE, never says to kill unbelievers. Not now, not ever.
So if there was a time when professed Christians killed anyone because they were unbelievers, they were wrong.
The Quran, instructs followers to kill unbelievers. So throughout history Islam has conquered and Killed many people. They are following the teachings of the Quran.
One group did WRONG THINGS. Eventually they realised their error and they stopped.
The other group is keeping the commandments of their Holy Book.
@Rajk999 saidWhat does history have to do with anything? Are you for real? - Horrors done in the name of a particular religion are just as horrific 500 years ago as they are today.
What does history have to do with anything? Im beginning to wonder about you. I though your brain worked well.
The BIBLE, never says to kill unbelievers. Not now, not ever.
So if there was a time when professed Christians killed anyone because they were unbelievers, they were wrong.
The Quran, instructs followers to kill unbelievers. So throughout history Islam has c ...[text shortened]... sed their error and they stopped.
The other group is keeping the commandments of their Holy Book.
The problem here Rajk is that you are intrinsically incapable of being objective about Islam. Whatever the context you enter the discussion with the mindset all Muslims are evil and should be destroyed. As a Christian, following teachings of love and forgiveness, don't you think that is a bit self defeating? - Aren't you actually being the thing you say you hate, in calling for the destruction of believers of another religion?
@Rajk999 saidHave you actually studied Islam, or just going on 'apparently' and things you've heard others say?
Apparently in Islam, Muslims are instructed to kill unbelievers.
I hope you can see the difference.
Just as you've often said about the Bible, things in the Quran need to be read in context. The verse you elude to, about killing unbelievers, was referring to the people that disbelieved in the prophets message at the time and were trying to kill him and his companions. (An army of 1000 against Mohammed's 300). - So basically the verse relates to a permission from Allah to fight back.
To extrapolate from this that Muslims today are instructed to kill unbelievers is just plain silly, although I'm sure you will make that claim again in the future.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidOh .. I have heard this nonsense before. See if you get this:
Have you actually studied Islam, or just going on 'apparently' and things you've heard others say?
Just as you've often said about the Bible, things in the Quran need to be read in context. The verse you elude to, about killing unbelievers, was referring to the people that disbelieved in the prophets message at the time and were trying to kill him and his companio ...[text shortened]... ill unbelievers is just plain silly, although I'm sure you will make that claim again in the future.
I am not the one killing Christians and unbelievers all over the world.
Muslims are doing that and they do it because their Quran says to do it.
I do not need to study Islam.
Go tell the Stupid Muslim Extremists to stop doing it.
@Rajk999 saidSo no retraction for quoting something out of context?
Oh .. I have heard this nonsense before. See if you get this:
I am not the one killing Christians and unbelievers all over the world.
Muslims are doing that and they do it because their Quran says to do it.
I do not need to study Islam.
Go tell the Stupid Muslim Extremists to stop doing it.
Is that because it serves your purpose to do so?