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Do mRNA vaccines cause cancer?

Do mRNA vaccines cause cancer?

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Here is another quote from your link:

"The claim that vaccines contain cancer causing ingredients has long been pushed by vaccine opponents."

The article in the link I posted makes no such claim. It is the mRNA itself that deactivates cancer suppressing proteins, not a cancer causing ingredient. This is known to happen with certain viruses as I already pointed out, which also use mRNA to manipulate cells into reproducing it's proteins.

mRNA vaccines are a virus based treatment. Scientists noticed viruses are really good at manipulating cells into producing foreign proteins, so they used viruses to inject mRNA of preference.

You may be interested to know that is how scientists manipulated cells into producing tumor suppressing proteins to cure cancer. That was done before mRNA vaccines existed.

Your AP fact check is fake! They have a history of it too.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2020/04/04/future-not-fact-ap-fact-checkers-trash-trump-predicting-suicide

Here are more fake fact checkers who were busted lying.

https://www.newsbusters.org/fact-checkers


@shavixmir said
It doesn’t help against corona.
Lying will not convince anyone. You have to prove it. The Lancet retracted the fraudulent article because HCQ helps. If it didn't help it would have never been retracted.

You are relying on fraudulent data to fool yourself into believing your confirmation bias.
FAIL!


@metal-brain said
Lying will not convince anyone. You have to prove it. The Lancet retracted the fraudulent article because HCQ helps. If it didn't help it would have never been retracted.

You are relying on fraudulent data to fool yourself into believing your confirmation bias.
FAIL!
It doesn’t help against corona.


@shavixmir said
It doesn’t help against corona.
You are like a broken record.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/3/peer-reviewed-study-finds-hydroxychloroquine-effec/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/Health/healthnews/study-finds-hydroxychloroquine-helped-coronavirus-patients-survive-better/ar-BB16hifu

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01695-w/


@metal-brain said
Scientists at Sloan Kettering said so.

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-03-02-scientists-discover-mrna-inactivates-tumor-suppressing-proteins.html

Is it true?
This work on mRNA mutations contributing to cancer progression was conducted by Dr. Christine Mayr at MSKCC. It is true, but has nothing to do with COVID or vaccines.

The lab has had to face lots of questions recently, even changing their website to include a statement that "It’s important to note that mRNAs are a normal component of all cells and the specific ones discussed here are not involved in mRNA-based vaccines, like the one developed against SARS-CoV-2."

This NewsTarget article is a great example of science propaganda, in which the findings of a study are taken completely out of context and twisted to serve a narrative. They didn't even get a quote from Dr. Mayr or state her name anywhere in the article. Please review information sources before posting propaganda.

Thanks.


@wildgrass said
This work on mRNA mutations contributing to cancer progression was conducted by Dr. Christine Mayr at MSKCC. It is true, but has nothing to do with COVID or vaccines.

The lab has had to face lots of questions recently, even changing their website to include a statement that "It’s important to note that mRNAs are a normal component of all cells and the specific ones discu ...[text shortened]... ame anywhere in the article. Please review information sources before posting propaganda.

Thanks.
Are they referring to oncogenic viruses?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/oncogenic-viruses

Viruses work in much the same way. They don't have any ingredients that cause cancer either. The susceptibility comes from within the body. The AP's fake fact check relies on this to mislead people.

It doesn't have to do with vaccines specifically. It has to do with mRNA and that includes mRNA vaccines. All mRNA treatments carry that risk, including mRNA vaccines. Do you dispute that?

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@metal-brain said
Are they referring to oncogenic viruses?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/oncogenic-viruses

Viruses work in much the same way. They don't have any ingredients that cause cancer either. The susceptibility comes from within the body. The AP's fake fact check relies on this to mislead people.

It doesn't have to do with vacci ...[text shortened]... es mRNA vaccines. All mRNA treatments carry that risk, including mRNA vaccines. Do you dispute that?
No they are not referring to oncogenic viruses.
Viruses work in much the same way. They don't have any ingredients that cause cancer either.

NO! Viruses can cause cancer. Vaccines cannot.
It doesn't have to do with vaccines specifically. It has to do with mRNA and that includes mRNA vaccines. All mRNA treatments carry that risk, including mRNA vaccines.
I don't understand your sentence structure. The "that" in your last sentence is not referring to anything. All mRNA treatment carry what risk?


@wildgrass said
No they are not referring to oncogenic viruses.
Viruses work in much the same way. They don't have any ingredients that cause cancer either.

NO! Viruses can cause cancer. Vaccines cannot.
[quote]It doesn't have to do with vaccines specifically. It has to do with mRNA and that includes mRNA vaccines. All mRNA treatments carry that risk, including mRNA vacci ...[text shortened]... . The "that" in your last sentence is not referring to anything. All mRNA treatment carry what risk?
Then what are they referring to?


@metal-brain said
Then what are they referring to?
They are referring to mRNA.


@wildgrass said
They are referring to mRNA.
LOL!
You mean foreign mRNA. Viruses and mRNA vaccines.
Since you ruled out both of them it is clear you don't know what you are talking about. It sure isn't your natural RNA.

Just admit you were duped by a fake fact checker. It happens. They are the new propagandists now.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2016/voters_don_t_trust_media_fact_checking

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@metal-brain said
LOL!
You mean foreign mRNA. Viruses and mRNA vaccines.
Since you ruled out both of them it is clear you don't know what you are talking about. It sure isn't your natural RNA.

Just admit you were duped by a fake fact checker. It happens. They are the new propagandists now.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2016/voters_don_t_trust_media_fact_checking
Both of what? Foreign mRNA? Ruled out what? Not natural RNA? You know what RNA is.

I responded to your OP about the Sloane Kettering researchers. Not fact checkers. Christine Mayr does not study vaccines. Christine Mayr does not study viruses. She is not an expert in either of these areas. Her work is being misconstrued in the article you posted.

You have stated that mRNA vaccines carry some nefarious risk, but have not stated what you mean by risk? How are mRNA vaccines risky?


@wildgrass said
Both of what? Foreign mRNA? Ruled out what? Not natural RNA? You know what RNA is.

I responded to your OP about the Sloane Kettering researchers. Not fact checkers. Christine Mayr does not study vaccines. Christine Mayr does not study viruses. She is not an expert in either of these areas. Her work is being misconstrued in the article you posted.

You have stated that ...[text shortened]... s carry some nefarious risk, but have not stated what you mean by risk? How are mRNA vaccines risky?
What does Christine Mayr study? RNA?
Are you going to debate in circles?

If she studies RNA that includes viruses and mRNA vaccines. Viruses use mRNA to reproduce by infecting your cells with it.
mRNA vaccines infect your cells to reproduce other foreign proteins.

Dude, it is all RNA.
I think you were misinformed. Your argument is ridiculous. Your argument is this: She studies RNA, but not that RNA!


@metal-brain said
What does Christine Mayr study? RNA?
Are you going to debate in circles?

If she studies RNA that includes viruses and mRNA vaccines. Viruses use mRNA to reproduce by infecting your cells with it.
mRNA vaccines infect your cells to reproduce other foreign proteins.

Dude, it is all RNA.
I think you were misinformed. Your argument is ridiculous. Your argument is this: She studies RNA, but not that RNA!
You are making no sense, sir. RNA is a large component in every living thing. That RNA is in a vaccine does not mean that all RNA-related research applies to a vaccine. Its not inherently bad. Most vaccines have proteins, but not all protein research is relevant for vaccines.

I think you were misinformed. Your argument is ridiculous. Your argument is this: She studies RNA, but not that RNA!
That argument is not ridiculous at all. Did you read her statement or any of her research? It is obvious that her research does not have anything to do with vaccines or viruses. I think you're getting the terminology mixed up. While a virus can infect your cells, an mRNA vaccine (which is just a molecule) cannot.

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@wildgrass said
You are making no sense, sir. RNA is a large component in every living thing. That RNA is in a vaccine does not mean that all RNA-related research applies to a vaccine. Its not inherently bad. Most vaccines have proteins, but not all protein research is relevant for vaccines.

[quote]I think you were misinformed. Your argument is ridiculous. Your argument is this: She stu ...[text shortened]... gy mixed up. While a virus can infect your cells, an mRNA vaccine (which is just a molecule) cannot.
Your claimed her research has nothing to do with mRNA vaccines. What is your source of information?

"While a virus can infect your cells, an mRNA vaccine (which is just a molecule) cannot."

A virus is just a molecule. An mRNA vaccine manipulates your cells to produce a foreign protein. A virus manipulates your cells to produce a foreign protein. They both do about the same thing, the difference is the type of protein your cells are being manipulated into producing. They are both infections, but the mRNA vaccine is not a virus. The virus mRNA is.

They are both infections, but the proteins they manipulate your cells into producing are very different. Remember, all of this mRNA technology is based on viral infections. It is biotechnology to mimic what a virus does with a different protein. That is how that technology evolved.