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@Mott-The-Hoople said
result of open borders flooding the system

Definitely not 4x more illegal immigrants than in 2016.

Do you want me to post all the news articles critical of Obama's immigration policies? It's a really long list, maybe you can just look it up?

Or would you prefer to bathe in your delusion?

@wildgrass said
Definitely not 4x more illegal immigrants than in 2016.

Do you want me to post all the news articles critical of Obama's immigration policies? It's a really long list, maybe you can just look it up?

Or would you prefer to bathe in your delusion?

“Do you want me to post all the news articles critical of Obama's immigration policies? ”


Yes

@wildgrass said
You think the media is corrupted by libs because they wrote something bad about Obama in 2016?

This is far more about ICE than it is about Obama.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
“Do you want me to post all the news articles critical of Obama's immigration policies? ”


Yes

Maybe start here. I doubt you'll read, but... your premise is false. Obama was roundly, repeatedly criticized for detention center deaths, aggressive raids on immigrant households, and detention center deaths.

YouTube

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/obama-s-rocket-docket-immigration-hearings-violate-due-process-experts-n672636

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/opinion/sunday/obamas-death-sentence-for-young-refugees.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/12/obama-immigration-deportations-central-america

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2016/01/12/tensions-escalate-further-between-obama-democrats-over-deportation-raids/

@Suzianne said
This is far more about ICE than it is about Obama.

I think Motts trying to argue that no one in media cared when Obama came down hard on immigrants, which is completely false and easily found to be false by a quick Google search.

@wildgrass said
I think Motts trying to argue that no one in media cared when Obama came down hard on immigrants, which is completely false and easily found to be false by a quick Google search.

AI is infiltrating all the search engines.

I would not trust Google or any other search engine.

@wildgrass said
I think Motts trying to argue that no one in media cared when Obama came down hard on immigrants, which is completely false and easily found to be false by a quick Google search.

I'm not sure what he's trying to argue. No matter how bad it was under Obama, it is distinctly worse now under Trump. We never had the Gestapo in the streets like we have now. Plus, he proves how the border was never "open".

@Martin said
AI is infiltrating all the search engines.

I would not trust Google or any other search engine.

"All your Google are belong to us."

"You have no chance to survive make your time. "

@wildgrass said
Maybe start here. I doubt you'll read, but... your premise is false. Obama was roundly, repeatedly criticized for detention center deaths, aggressive raids on immigrant households, and detention center deaths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcCiF4_elGY

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/obama-s-rocket-docket-immigration-hearings-violate-due-process-experts-n672636 ...[text shortened]... /federal-eye/wp/2016/01/12/tensions-escalate-further-between-obama-democrats-over-deportation-raids/

All you prove is democrats are AntiAmerican

@Mott-The-Hoople said
All you prove is democrats are AntiAmerican

It proves you don't remember because you forgot, not because it didn't happen.

@Suzianne said
I'm not sure what he's trying to argue. No matter how bad it was under Obama, it is distinctly worse now under Trump. We never had the Gestapo in the streets like we have now. Plus, he proves how the border was never "open".

Wildgrass says Trump is worse than Obama.

Obama personally ordered deaths of thousands of civilians.
He has a better killing rate than Trump.
Wildgrass needs to understand the following, and apologize to Trumpians.

Here is proof. And for the life of me, I cannot understand why deaths from Covid would be included in this scenario. I’m talking about killing people.


•If you exclude COVID-19 entirely and look only at wars and drones:
👉 The numbers are closer, and Obama may be associated with more foreign civilian deaths due to the scale of drone warfare

@AverageJoe1 said
Wildgrass says Trump is worse than Obama.

Obama personally ordered deaths of thousands of civilians.
He has a better killing rate than Trump.
Wildgrass needs to understand the following, and apologize to Trumpians.

Here is proof. And for the life of me, I cannot understand why deaths from Covid would be included in this scenario. I’m talking about killing peopl ...[text shortened]... ser, and Obama may be associated with more foreign civilian deaths due to the scale of drone warfare

How about deaths due to Trump cancelling aid to Africa?

Trump was on track to kill 14 million by 2030.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
All you prove is democrats are AntiAmerican

So are you now calling deportations anti-American?

Better talk to ICE about that. And maybe DHS while you're at it. ICE Barbie needs to know this.

@Suzianne said
How about deaths due to Trump cancelling aid to Africa?

Trump was on track to kill 14 million by 2030.

Irrelevant to the issue. Surprise!!
You see, Obama knew that his order would be an order to actually kill people, end the lives of people, people with families, don't you know.

No problem, glad to clear that up. Funny how you people try to make it appear that the USA has a DUTY to provide programs such as USAID. We should receive accolades for having done what we've done. Nothing in the Constitution about it. Nothing in there about paying college tuitions, either.
If the USA sends each of us $100/ month for 3 months and then stops....follow me here....do we get mad at the USA, or, are we appreciative of what the USA did?
Analogies are fun with you, Sue. I do wish you respond to this one, comparing it to the USAID program.
You can DO this!!

@AverageJoe1 said
Irrelevant to the issue. Surprise!!
You see, Obama knew that his order would be an order to actually kill people, end the lives of people, people with families, don't you know.

No problem, glad to clear that up. Funny how you people try to make it appear that the USA has a DUTY to provide programs such as USAID. We should receive accolades for having done what ...[text shortened]... Sue. I do wish you respond to this one, comparing it to the USAID program.
You can DO this!!

The richest country on earth does have a duty to the poorest people on the planet.

You, on the other hand, are perfectly okay with letting them die.

Just like Hitler was okay with sending the Jews to die in camps.

You condone murder, plain and simple.