@shavixmir saidI'm saying that exasperation over 'hypersensitivity' is growing and that centrist voters are more and more turned off by it. 😆
So, what you are saying is that the history of cotton making caused embarrasment in a class with students, because reactions in the classroom led to people making jokes about slavery and drawing conclusions to the current state affairs.
And I’m supposed to think what?
That slavery wasn’t bad?
That embarrassing students isn’t bad?
That people being embarrassed about th ...[text shortened]... rder humiliating the losers is a subject one should approach with a bit of tact. Wouldn’t you agree?
Also - if a teacher taught a lesson and some kid make a joke about it - that's the fault of the kid, not the teacher. So putting blame where it belongs is also something I think the Left is perceived as having trouble with.
@spruce112358
America is having a difficult time dealing with its past. I guess that is the lesson here. Does no one find it peculiar that Black people in America smoke cigarettes? I find it macabre.
@spruce112358 saidAnd what I’m countering is that there is a differencr between sensitivity and hyper-sensitivity. And that there’s also a diffetence between being deliberately rude or being polite.
I'm saying that exasperation over 'hypersensitivity' is growing and that centrist voters are more and more turned off by it. 😆
Also - if a teacher taught a lesson and some kid make a joke about it - that's the fault of the kid, not the teacher. So putting blame where it belongs is also something I think the Left is perceived as having trouble with.
And I, considering how you folk talk about others, cannot distinguish between any of the above.
@spruce112358 saidWhat is so "stupid" about parents being offended about their children being the butt of jokes about "picking cotton" in a history, not botany, class?
One of the reasons the Left lost the last election is support for some really stupid positions. For example, see below... 😆
Cotton is a plant. You are wearing this plant right now. Get over yourself. 😆
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"Some families in Loudoun County, Virginia, are outraged after a high school history class in which the teacher told the students to pass around cotton.
The ...[text shortened]... /northern-virginia/loudoun-county-history-lesson-involving-cotton-humiliated-black-students/3791015/
@spruce112358 saidIt's perfectly foreseeable by a teacher that handing around cotton to children in a mixed race class would cause some of the kids to be the butt of racist jokes.
I'm saying that exasperation over 'hypersensitivity' is growing and that centrist voters are more and more turned off by it. 😆
Also - if a teacher taught a lesson and some kid make a joke about it - that's the fault of the kid, not the teacher. So putting blame where it belongs is also something I think the Left is perceived as having trouble with.
@no1marauder saidExactly.
It's perfectly foreseeable by a teacher that handing around cotton to children in a mixed race class would cause some of the kids to be the butt of racist jokes.
Doing the same thing in the Netherlands or Israel, will have no secondary meaning.
Throwing tea in the Maas (Meuse) in Dinant (that’s Belgium, by the way) is meaningless, but in Boston, could be considered an act of rebellion.
If you’re talking about cotton in states where plantations were a thing, then yeah, one has to be sensible.
If it’s in a state where there was no cotton slavery, then it’s less relevant.
However, considering the whole history of the US, it’s rather obvious that discussing cotton will be more of an issue than in Scotland.
And when you take into account the distribution of wealth in the US, then it’s rather obvious history and slavery are going to be part of the discussion. How could that ever be otherwise?
@no1marauder saidI would not have foreseen that.
It's perfectly foreseeable by a teacher that handing around cotton to children in a mixed race class would cause some of the kids to be the butt of racist jokes.
"They explained that the teacher left the room and got a stalk of cotton from another teacher, and that teacher that she got the cotton from was a teacher of African American history," 🤔
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@shavixmir saidFYI, I'm pretty sure no cotton is grown in Loudoun County, VA. It's too far north. 😀
Exactly.
Doing the same thing in the Netherlands or Israel, will have no secondary meaning.
Throwing tea in the Maas (Meuse) in Dinant (that’s Belgium, by the way) is meaningless, but in Boston, could be considered an act of rebellion.
If you’re talking about cotton in states where plantations were a thing, then yeah, one has to be sensible.
If it’s in a state whe ...[text shortened]... bvious history and slavery are going to be part of the discussion. How could that ever be otherwise?
EDIT: OK, better explain that. Maybe the teacher thought seeing the seeds in a stalk of cotton would drive home the lesson about the cotton engine ("gin" ) increasing slavery rather than decreasing it:
"Before the gin, there was no quick way for slaves to process picked cotton. Removing sticky seeds from cotton grown in the Deep South was difficult and time consuming. With the gin, this changed."
"The most significant effect of the cotton gin, however, was the growth of slavery. While it was true that the cotton gin reduced the labor of removing seeds, it did not reduce the need for enslaved labor to grow and pick the cotton."
@spruce112358 saidAccording to the article, even some of the kids realized how offensive it was to hand pieces of cotton to their black classmates and refused to do so.
I would not have foreseen that.
"They explained that the teacher left the room and got a stalk of cotton from another teacher, and that teacher that she got the cotton from was a teacher of African American history," 🤔
Hard to understand why a teacher would lack such awareness.
@no1marauder saidI mean, "No thanks. I'm not interested in looking at cotton"? 🙂
According to the article, even some of the kids realized how offensive it was to hand pieces of cotton to their black classmates and refused to do so.
Hard to understand why a teacher would lack such awareness.
@spruce112358 saidIt's a thin line between playing stupid and being stupid.
I mean, "No thanks. I'm not interested in looking at cotton"? 🙂
This post probably crosses it.
@spruce112358 saidPerhaps the students were aware of this story from just last month right after the election: https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-college-students-receive-racist-164450419.html
I mean, "No thanks. I'm not interested in looking at cotton"? 🙂
@no1marauder saidSMH. The anonymity of the internet gives people license to be vile.
Perhaps the students were aware of this story from just last month right after the election: https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-college-students-receive-racist-164450419.html