@sh76 saidI’d hire her as a computer programmer, outreach to trans populations, as a painter or auto mechanic.
And you're entitled to hire or not hire people based on their political opinions.
I'm just wondering if people would also be nervous enough about the mental state of those suffering from gender dysphoria to also make one hesitant to hire such person.
Probably wouldn’t get a lap dance from her though.
Depends on if there were some relevance to the job.
@spruce112358 saidThat's not normal behavior where I live, so no; not a chance.
Would you hire a guy who wore a gun to an interview? Let's say you did the interview in an open carry state, in an off-site coffee shop where the owners seemed to not have a problem.
If it were normal behavior in that place, well that's a big "if" that I don't really want to speculate on.
@sh76 saidNope
Parasite brought up in another thread "a man about 50 years old who looked like a fisherman his whole life wearing a miniskirt and a blonde wig that kept sliding off"
That made me think of civil rights laws and anti-discrimination laws.
So let me post this to the group...
Assume that Parasite's description is dead on.
Now assume that you're hiring manager at a white ...[text shortened]... t description?
I'm not asking whether it's illegal or legal. I'm asking whether you would do it.
@sh76 saidIt’s the mental state of Maga supporters I would be worried about, not their fiscal voting record.
And you're entitled to hire or not hire people based on their political opinions.
I'm just wondering if people would also be nervous enough about the mental state of those suffering from gender dysphoria to also make one hesitant to hire such person.
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@Sleepyguy saidYou would refuse to hire a superior employee because she's trans? Your loss. That's not very business minded of you.
Nope
Unless you were criticizing the choice of a miniskirt as interview attire. I could see that being a red flag. She should have worn a professional dress or skirt suit or something.
Choosing not to hire someone because you think gender dysphoria will lead to mental instability is very much like refusing to hire a Jew because the abuse they suffer might make them mentally unstable.
@Parasite saidThat's probably because the white owned company is huge and the immigrant owned company is a tiny family business with a handful of employees.
Does your white owned company have enough old people? ✔️
Does your white owned company have enough gay people? ✔️
Does your white owned company have enough immigrants? ✔️
Does your white owned company have enough teenagers? ✔️
Does your white owned company have enough black people? ✔️
There is no box to ✔️ for hiring middle aged straight white men.
Now whe ...[text shortened]... e laws to protect whatever and whoever is the minority then.
Who is at fault? POS white liberals.
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@sh76 said
Parasite brought up in another thread "a man about 50 years old who looked like a fisherman his whole life wearing a miniskirt and a blonde wig that kept sliding off"
Caitlyn Jenner would probably be a pretty good athletics coach.
@mchill saidMy thinking is more along the lines of there's no "fault" to point a finger at.
Who is at fault? POS white liberals.
I've always though highly of Canadians. They seemed to be an intelligent, well-adjusted group.
It seems I'll have to rethink this -
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@sh76 saidGender dysphoria is only concerned with how the person feels and if they are comfortable in their birth body.
And you're entitled to hire or not hire people based on their political opinions.
I'm just wondering if people would also be nervous enough about the mental state of those suffering from gender dysphoria to also make one hesitant to hire such person.
If they were also psychopaths, then that might trigger an actual concern for their mental state.
Would you feel nervous about hiring a diabetic because they might need more time off work? Where is the line between your concern for them and your concern for you?
@sh76 saidAm I allowed to explain the job requires a dress code to that said person?
Parasite brought up in another thread "a man about 50 years old who looked like a fisherman his whole life wearing a miniskirt and a blonde wig that kept sliding off"
That made me think of civil rights laws and anti-discrimination laws.
So let me post this to the group...
Assume that Parasite's description is dead on.
Now assume that you're hiring manager at a white ...[text shortened]... t description?
I'm not asking whether it's illegal or legal. I'm asking whether you would do it.
When I say "dress" code I do not mean he is required to wear a dress. LOL
But seriously... I would have to question that said person's judgement.
But if a law firm needed some flaming gay guy to represent gay people who were discriminated against I guess it could happen. Maybe a lot of gay people work at the law firm.
But if you are asking me only what I would do I would not hire him.
Even most gay people know to dress properly when applying for a job.
@sh76
I changed my mind. Some jobs do not require a drag queen to be seen. It depends.
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@AThousandYoung saidGender dysphoria IS mental instability, and one that is often accompanied by aggressive attempts to control other people's language. A person with a penis is a man. His pronouns are he/him whether he likes it or not. The answer is no. Just no.
You would refuse to hire a superior employee because she's trans? Your loss. That's not very business minded of you.
Unless you were criticizing the choice of a miniskirt as interview attire. I could see that being a red flag. She should have worn a professional dress or skirt suit or something.
Choosing not to hire someone because you think gender dysphoria ...[text shortened]... ry much like refusing to hire a Jew because the abuse they suffer might make them mentally unstable.
@Sleepyguy saidThere are risks in hiring anyone. If they turn out combative and insubordinate you've got a real problem...
Gender dysphoria IS mental instability, and one that is often accompanied by aggressive attempts to control other people's language. A person with a penis is a man. His pronouns are he/him whether he likes it or not. The answer is no. Just no.
Which is why employers really hate hiring people who are more likely to be a problem. ("just fire them if it doesn't work out" is a banal cliche spoken by those who are not supervisors - even if you can fire them without getting sued, putting in the time, money and energy to onboard and train someone, only to have to fire them is a colossal waste of resources)
More than anything else, employers are scared of hiring a problem.
That's why you don't bring someone on if there's an elevated chance the person will be a problem or there's an indication of a chip on someone's shoulder.
Without going into too much detail, I interviewed someone who wanted to re-locate to "get away from all the discrimination I face around here."
Now, it was one of 8 people interviewing for one position, so it's hard to ascribe causation to any one factor, but I'll say the statement made me very nervous. Maybe the person really did face discrimination, but my only thought was "if the person can't get along with their current area, how can I be confident they'll get along in mine?