End Property Taxes

@Metal-Brain said
You obviously did not read the article I posted. Sales taxes could be raised to compensate for it. And property taxes do not pay for road maintenance.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/states-road-funding-2019/

Property taxes are regressive and hurt the poor disproportionately. Property taxes should be abolished. They are also unconstitutional. Read the article.

Property tax is levied by states, and so cannot be unconstitutional. The federal Constitution doesn't regulate state taxation.

@sh76 said
Thanks for demonstrating the rampant ineptness of government. I couldn't have made a better argument for capitalism myself.

I also get hurt be school tax since I don't use the public school system. But once you're going to have public schools (and a good argument exists for using a voucher system instead), someone has to pay for it. And whether it's paid for with property tax ...[text shortened]... terest in being involved in the management of these activities when they have more skin in the game.

And whether it's paid for with property tax or income tax is six of one vs. half a dozen of the other.

I emphatically disagree. Income tax only taxes people who have the money to pay for it. Property tax is required whether you can pay it or not with the threat of taking a persons home away.

It is not ok for a responsible person who pays off their house before retirement and then when they get old, befuddled, senile taxes go up and they lose everything.

@sh76 said
Property tax is levied by states, and so cannot be unconstitutional. The federal Constitution doesn't regulate state taxation.

Yes it does. Federal constitution trumps states rights.

@Metal-Brain said
Yes it does. Federal constitution trumps states rights.

Yes, but the federal government's power to tax comes from the Constitution. The states' powers to tax do not need the federal Constitution and so are not limited to the same set of taxation powers that the federal government has.

Sure, a state tax could be unconstitutional if, for example, it was racially discriminatory or taxed free speech or ran up against rights protected by the Constitution. But the states don't have the same framework in which they must apply forms of taxation to be constitutional.

@sh76 said
Yes, but the federal government's power to tax comes from the Constitution. The states' powers to tax do not need the federal Constitution and so are not limited to the same set of taxation powers that the federal government has.

Sure, a state tax could be unconstitutional if, for example, it was racially discriminatory or taxed free speech or ran up against rights protected ...[text shortened]... tates don't have the same framework in which they must apply forms of taxation to be constitutional.

I already pointed out that property taxes are racially discriminatory. Don't you read anything I post? And read the article I posted for crying out loud. They want a SCOTUS ruling because property taxes are unconstitutional.
You can read, right?

The nation's constitution trumps the state's constitutions so you are wrong. A state's constitution cannot override the nation's constitution. You seem to be making up stuff as you go along. You are very misinformed.

@Metal-Brain said
I already pointed out that property taxes are racially discriminatory. Don't you read anything I post? And read the article I posted for crying out loud. They want a SCOTUS ruling because property taxes are unconstitutional.
You can read, right?

The nation's constitution trumps the state's constitutions so you are wrong. A state's constitution cannot override the nation's constitution. You seem to be making up stuff as you go along. You are very misinformed.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a 7 year old, so is basically pointless.

But for the others: The idea that property taxes are unconstitutional because they're racially discriminatory is patently absurd. A finding that a state action is unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment would require discriminatory intent, not just discriminatory impact.

The idea that states impose property taxes to intentionally discriminate based on race is so laughable that it's not even worth discussing.

@sh76 said
Arguing with you is like arguing with a 7 year old, so is basically pointless.

But for the others: The idea that property taxes are unconstitutional because they're racially discriminatory is patently absurd. A finding that a state action is unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment would require discriminatory intent, not just discriminatory impact.

The idea that states i ...[text shortened]... xes to intentionally discriminate based on race is so laughable that it's not even worth discussing.

In his book, The Black Tax: 150 Years of Theft, Exploitation and Dispossession in America, Andrew Kahrl examines the history of the property tax and its role in perpetuating wealth inequality.

Andrew Kahrl: Yeah, you can only begin to grasp just how significant this has played in undermining African American struggles to acquire and accumulate property, whether it be in the rural South of the turn of the 20th century or in northern cities and the postwar era. That falling into tax delinquency be one of these situations, again, that it particularly affected African Americans, for one because of their own financial precarity. But also as well through the financing arrangements that were available to African Americans, which often did not come with many of the protections that, say, came with a conventional mortgage.

"All of these factors combined to make African American homeowners and landowners more prone to falling into tax delinquency. And, as I show in the book, because of the way these laws are structured, it made it more profitable for those who are investing in tax liens to buy them off of African American delinquent taxpayers than whites because it oftentimes took longer for them to pay off these debts. And so the longer it took, the more profits could be generated from those debts."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxnotes/2025/04/08/tax-or-theft-examining-the-history-of-the-property-tax/

You can make the argument that there was no intent to target African Americans because they were poor and it actually targeted the poor, but you are making the argument that regressive taxes are good. You are obviously no democrat, at least not a good democrat that cares about the poor.

Property taxes are regressive and that makes them class warfare. So why do you support class warfare so much? Does it make you feel superior to poor people? Is that how a lot of lawyers rationalize being income bigots? You have a high income so anybody who picks up your garbage is trash, right?

You need to take a good look in the mirror.
Who have you become? You are a class bigot.