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Explain socialist/liberal dogma. Why don’t socialist want to live under socialism?

Explain socialist/liberal dogma. Why don’t socialist want to live under socialism?

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@AverageJoe1 said
Please re-state this, as since it is obvious, you have an underlying meaning?
I meant it how it was written.


@AverageJoe1 said
I could go all day on this one, as you are saying that my tax money should pay for your daughter's abortion and for every bit of medical care for 360million people who reside here. It gets rid of private med insurance, private doctors, and of course, in case you haven't thought of it, thousands of people who 'appear' as doctors, for which I would have to stand in line to ...[text shortened]... take care you. Can you not take care of yourself? Does your family, who counts on you, know that?
All tax money is the property of the state to spend as they see fit.
Your medical system is mess. I have seen and heard of ridiculous charges for petty things because the patient is on insurance. So your system is full of fraud and ridiculous charges. Its a mess, and a first world country should be able to do better.


@AverageJoe1 said
OK, so you have tempered your comments by saying that food should be given to people who starve. Prior to that you were just saying free food. It would be better if you were more specific and save a lot of typing.
Along these lines, you once said free housing. I would not be surprised if you think everyone should have free housing. I think that is really what you me ...[text shortened]... using. Can you come in on that. How would you keep up with people who qualify and people who do not?
"Along these lines, you once said free housing. I would not be surprised if you think everyone should have free housing. I think that is really what you meant. "
As long as there are billionaires, housing should be free.


"However if you mean, only people that need it, please tell us how you would decide who needs free housing"
People how have no housing.

"Can you come in on that. How would you keep up with people who qualify and people who do not?"
The same way you justify the death penalty, only with more moral backing. I would rather have some lazy people abuse this thing than have homeless people who have no choice but to be homeless.

What do you think, i advocate for mansions for everyone? That people would just stop working to get into the wonderful government housing?


In order to get a job, one often has to have a place of residence. Somewhere they could take a shower before going to an interview. You psychopaths whine about homeless people not getting job ignoring the fact that nobody would hire someone off the street who wears his entire wardrobe on his back. You whine about Mamdani's free busses ignoring the fact many poor people don't own a car and can't get to their jobs.

You do a lot of whining.


@AverageJoe1 said
Right, they read and educate themselves. Feeds the brain. A community service. Libraries should be free.
Should food be free? Feeds the body.

Shavixmir? Bring it.
No one should starve in a country that builds a $300 million ballroom for corporate bigwig donors.


@Rajk999 said
I meant it how it was written.
sorry, wish I'd understood it so I could reply. I love to reply, to answer questions.


@Rajk999 said
All tax money is the property of the state to spend as they see fit.
Your medical system is mess. I have seen and heard of ridiculous charges for petty things because the patient is on insurance. So your system is full of fraud and ridiculous charges. Its a mess, and a first world country should be able to do better.
Always room for improvement. Are you suggesting the other countries have a better program? Do they allow for private supplemental? I have it and have perfect care with zero costs.
Other countries don't have the problems you say that we have? You wasting a post again??
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@AverageJoe1 said
Always room for improvement. Are you suggesting the other countries have a better program? Do they allow for private supplemental? I have it and have perfect care with zero costs.
Other countries don't have the problems you say that we have? You wasting a post again??
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Im saying basic health care should be free for every citizen or legal immigrant. Basic health care does not include, abortions, cosmetic surgery, sex changes and other nonsense procedures. These are free in most European countries. Even the backward $$ithhole country where I live we have free basic health care. For a rich 1st world country the US is way behind in health care.


@Suzianne said
No one should starve in a country that builds a $300 million ballroom for corporate bigwig donors.
See big picture. Ballroom needed to conduct world business, and celebratory occasions.
You know, when it is finished, Donald will be about through, and Kamala will LOVE having her entourage, with the reverends and all the hangers-on, you know, they always dancing!! She will thank Donald, and be plenty busy with reopened border. Czar Marauder will be sure the place is turned into a half way house.
We try not to think about that, maybe all of the real business of our country will be done by the time he leaves office, and, Kamala can just dance the night away. Dancing is a big deal. It will be, in the ballroom.
The free ballroom.


@Zahlanzi said
"Along these lines, you once said free housing. I would not be surprised if you think everyone should have free housing. I think that is really what you meant. "
As long as there are billionaires, housing should be free.


"However if you mean, only people that need it, please tell us how you would decide who needs free housing"
People how have no housing.

"Can you ...[text shortened]... the fact many poor people don't own a car and can't get to their jobs.

You do a lot of whining.
If someone has any physical ability to work and draw salary, ‘should’ (what a word…you people are sheep,,) that person get free housing?…alongside a man who has one arm and one leg who gets free housing? Uhh, are they equal?

As to guys getting cleaned up for an interview, a prospective employer will know what he is going to interview at the outset. …..A disheveled person looking for basic labor work to be self-reliant. For a manual job, he could expect no more than a guy in basic street clothes who may need a shave. I would hire him in a heartbeat if he can unload lumber. So I don’t get your point on this one.

Next, you say people that qualify for free housing would be people that do not have housing. You dilute your own post.

Yes, if things like housing or medicine, which we have discussed before, would cause people to put themselves in a position to get those things for free……………..they all would do it. And think of the hordes of people from other countries that would come here just to get free medicine. Do you realize how stupid your posts are?. You lack common sense.. For instance, it is not common sense for society to force one citizen to pay for the support of another citizen. It is not in the constitution, but common sense overules the constitution, would you not say?


@AverageJoe1 said
See big picture. Ballroom needed to conduct world business, and celebratory occasions.
You know, when it is finished, Donald will be about through, and Kamala will LOVE having her entourage, with the reverends and all the hangers-on, you know, they always dancing!! She will thank Donald, and be plenty busy with reopened border. Czar Marauder will be sure the place is tur ...[text shortened]... dance the night away. Dancing is a big deal. It will be, in the ballroom.
The free ballroom.
Dont know why you need to justify the president building a ballroom. If people are or working age and they have the ability they should be able to work for enough to feed themselves. The problem is that there are many whose lifestyle does not fit their income and that is their fault. The role of the government is to assist needy cases, and there are many people getting welfare fraudulently.


@Zahlanzi said
"Along these lines, you once said free housing. I would not be surprised if you think everyone should have free housing. I think that is really what you meant. "
As long as there are billionaires, housing should be free.


"However if you mean, only people that need it, please tell us how you would decide who needs free housing"
People how have no housing.

"Can you ...[text shortened]... the fact many poor people don't own a car and can't get to their jobs.

You do a lot of whining.
So, citizens have been paying for the bus ride (to their job, where they make money to pay for the ride), for a few hundred years.
You gonna change that for some reason? Why do I not get your reasoning, I really try hard.
And why can't they 'get to their jobs?' Their daddys and your daddy did. I did. I figured it out, good planning, etc. Many ways to get to a job. Don't get you there.

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@Rajk999 said
Im saying basic health care should be free for every citizen or legal immigrant. Basic health care does not include, abortions, cosmetic surgery, sex changes and other nonsense procedures. These are free in most European countries. Even the backward $$ithhole country where I live we have free basic health care. For a rich 1st world country the US is way behind in health care.
Free in Other countries????????????????? Free?????????/. You a socialist, man?
BTW, does your country deliver toothpaste ON THE SAME DAY that you order it, to your door??? Ours does.
Why don't we compare conveniences (to me the main diff in the USA and all other countries) of our respective countries. Here , if I just tink of something that I need, I am overwhelmed with choices. i need some cash. Oh, I just bumped into an ATM machine. Cash in 80 seconds. Oh, do you want your cheese to be non-dairy? Do i want an 8- ounce bag or a 12-ounce bag?

Do y'all get all this stuff? Yeah, we all got washing machines and siswasher, but keep reading. I love this country. Dam a counrty where there is no drive thru to get myself a Pepsi and a Taco Bell. Croissants Drive thru just wouldn't do it, but hey, they don't exist anyway.


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AI Overview
The best conveniences widely available in the USA include a mix of foundational household appliances, digital technology, and services designed for immediate gratification and time-saving.
Household & Domestic Conveniences
These items are commonly found in American homes and are considered essential for daily life by most residents:
Washing machines and clothes dryers: These save significant time and effort compared to manual washing and air-drying.
Refrigerators and freezers: Crucial for food preservation, allowing for bulk shopping and a diverse diet.
Microwave ovens: Revolutionized cooking by providing quick and easy meal preparation.
Dishwashers: Save considerable time on post-meal cleanup.
Central heating and air conditioning: Essential for indoor comfort across various US climates, particularly in regions like the Sunbelt where AC is considered a necessity.
Indoor plumbing and hot running water: Fundamental conveniences that provide immediate sanitation and comfort.
Garage door openers: A simple convenience that saves the effort of manually opening and closing a heavy garage door, especially in bad weather.
Technology & Connectivity
Digital and communication technologies are deeply integrated into American life:
Smartphones, laptops, and high-speed wireless internet: These devices offer constant connectivity for work, entertainment, and communication, making a vast array of information and services accessible instantly.
Online banking and contactless payments: These allow for seamless financial management and transactions without needing physical cash or frequent bank visits.
GPS/Satnav devices: Provide real-time navigation, making travel and commuting more efficient.
Streaming TV/media services: Offer on-demand entertainment options, changing how people consume media.
Services & Infrastructure
The overall "culture of convenience" in the US is supported by numerous services:
24/7 stores and services: Many grocery stores, pharmacies, and fast-food restaurants operate around the clock, catering to any schedule.
Drive-thrus: Allow customers to order and receive food or other goods from the comfort of their vehicles.
Food and grocery delivery apps: Enable ordering meals or household essentials directly to one's doorstep.
Free soda/drink refills: A common practice in many US restaurants, which is often a surprise to international visitors. .


@AverageJoe1 said
Free in Other countries????????????????? Free?????????/. You a socialist, man?
BTW, does your country deliver toothpaste ON THE SAME DAY that you order it, to your door??? Ours does.
Why don't we compare conveniences (to me the main diff in the USA and all other countries) of our respective countries. Here , if I just tink of something that I need, I am ove ...[text shortened]... ls: A common practice in many US restaurants, which is often a surprise to international visitors. .
I did not read all that because clearly you did not understand what I was saying. I dont think you even read my post.


@AverageJoe1 said
So, citizens have been paying for the bus ride (to their job, where they make money to pay for the ride), for a few hundred years.
You gonna change that for some reason? Why do I not get your reasoning, I really try hard.
And why can't they 'get to their jobs?' Their daddys and your daddy did. I did. I figured it out, good planning, etc. Many ways to get to a job. Don't get you there.
"So, citizens have been paying for the bus ride (to their job, where they make money to pay for the ride), for a few hundred years. You gonna change that for some reason? "
People have also shat upstream of their village and drank the crap water and blamed the diseases on evil spirits. People change.

"Why do I not get your reasoning, I really try hard."
Because you play a very dumb person and your character demands it.


@Zahlanzi said
"So, citizens have been paying for the bus ride (to their job, where they make money to pay for the ride), for a few hundred years. You gonna change that for some reason? "
People have also shat upstream of their village and drank the crap water and blamed the diseases on evil spirits. People change.

"Why do I not get your reasoning, I really try hard."
Because you play a very dumb person and your character demands it.
Why do you libs always go personal when you lose the argument?