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@metal-brain saidInstead of wheat, rice.
Ukraine produces and exports a lot of food. War means less exports. Will it lead to a world wide food shortage of wheat and other ag products?
Instead of eggs, artifical eggs made of gypsum and yellow blobby stuff.
Instead of Ukrainian mudpies, maybe Michigander mudpies will come back in style.
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@metal-brain saidGood the last thing we want is the USA having to cave in to Russia because it cannot physically, economically or politically sustain its support for Ukraine.
Not here in the good ol' USA.
We grow more wheat and corn than we need. There will be no shortage here, except maybe sunflower oil. Looks like a food shortage will benefit the USA. More demand for our wheat and corn.
It is almost like it was planned that way.
Sooo your suggesting that the White House paid the Kremlin to invade Ukraine.
You keep forgetting that commodities such as oil and grain are bought and sold on the global market the price is just as likely to face a hike in the US as anywhere else regardless of how much it produces unless Biden nationalises all the wheat growers and oil producers, I cannot see that happening, can you?
If your saying that these shortages are going to have much more detrimental effect on the poorest consumers of the world then your correct and the richer nations should be trying to offset the suffering through organisations like the UN and the world food programme.
@kevcvs57 saidThat doesn't take into account logistics. If the USA has 10x as much food as needed to feed it's citizens and the rest of the world has half as much as it needs, food will be cheaper in the USA no matter what the global market has to say.
Good the last thing we want is the USA having to cave in to Russia because it cannot physically, economically or politically sustain its support for Ukraine.
Sooo your suggesting that the White House paid the Kremlin to invade Ukraine.
You keep forgetting that commodities such as oil and grain are bought and sold on the global market the price is just as likely to face a h ...[text shortened]... ld be trying to offset the suffering through organisations like the UN and the world food programme.
@athousandyoung saidHue do you explain the gas price hikes? of course global commodity prices are going to be reflected in the US consumer price index. Not to the sane extent as it will in a net importer nation and its those nations that we should be focussing on in terms of aid and relief there are people in the world that will starve to death because of these shortages if we just let the market dictate how these scarce recourses are distributed.
That doesn't take into account logistics. If the USA has 10x as much food as needed to feed it's citizens and the rest of the world has half as much as it needs, food will be cheaper in the USA no matter what the global market has to say.
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@kevcvs57 saidGas has to be refined, doesn’t spoil and cannot be renewed. If food isn't sold it will rot and if it is wasted more can be made. If you go to a farm you can buy food for really cheap no matter what the global price says.
Hue do you explain the gas price hikes? of course global commodity prices are going to be reflected in the US consumer price index. Not to the sane extent as it will in a net importer nation and its those nations that we should be focussing on in terms of aid and relief there are people in the world that will starve to death because of these shortages if we just let the market dictate how these scarce recourses are distributed.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-58410363
Farmers hit by a shortage of seasonal workers have resorted to giving produce away for free rather than seeing it left to rot.
@averagejoe1 saidYeah perhaps he should have said it whilst aping someone with a disability 🙄
Could he not be more Trumpearean in his delivery>"Americans are resilient, resourceful, we have and we always will get through times such as this, etc etc etc.....
@athousandyoung saidRight but I’m not sure that’s gonna help the poor who don’t have transport to get to the farm from inner city.
Gas has to be refined, doesn’t spoil and cannot be renewed. If food isn't sold it will rot and if it is wasted more can be made. If you go to a farm you can buy food for really cheap no matter what the global price says.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-58410363
Farmers hit by a shortage of seasonal workers have resorted to giving produce away for free rather than seeing it left to rot.
The point is grain can be stored long enough to export it to the people who need it most.
BlackRock and Vanguard are taking over centralized food production technologies and will have near-total control over the future food supply in America
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-05-01-blackrock-vanguard-controlling-america-centralized-food-production.html
“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.”
— Henry Kissinger
@athousandyoung saidThat depends.
That doesn't take into account logistics. If the USA has 10x as much food as needed to feed it's citizens and the rest of the world has half as much as it needs, food will be cheaper in the USA no matter what the global market has to say.
https://www.dcclothesline.com/2022/05/20/biden-seizes-control-over-domestic-food-materials-using-korean-war-era-emergency-powers/
@metal-brain saidThat's okay, you can always eat babies, like you're always talking about.
IMF now warning that food supply shortages will create waves of social unrest across the globe
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-04-22-imf-warning-food-supply-shortages-social-unrest.html