Food shortage coming?

@suzianne said
That's okay, you can always eat babies, like you're always talking about.

Stop lying. You know I never said that.

https://humansbefree.com/2022/05/why-are-dozens-of-processing-facilities-burning-down.html

https://www.dcclothesline.com/2022/05/20/biden-seizes-control-over-domestic-food-materials-using-korean-war-era-emergency-powers/

@metal-brain said
You mean you don't trust good ol' capitalism? LOL!

Welcome to the real world. Capitalists don't respect competition like they claim to. They are out to screw over anyone they can. You want wheat and corn? Pay us for it. Go ahead and blame it on Putin. We don't care.

Scapegoats are nice. Blame the high fuel prices on Putin while you are at it. That is what Biden is doing.

Sorry when did I ever give the impression I was a massive fan of capitalism you halfwit. I believe in socially controlled capitalism because, I do not believe in Stalinist despotism or Putinesque robber baron economics ideally I’d like to see left wing democratic socialism whereby the ultimate economic and political power is invested in truly democratically elected governments.

@athousandyoung said
That doesn't take into account logistics. If the USA has 10x as much food as needed to feed it's citizens and the rest of the world has half as much as it needs, food will be cheaper in the USA no matter what the global market has to say.

I think your nickpicking here the price of gas has gone up in the US because of the global supply and demand equation same with wheat. No one is claiming that the 1st world is going to starve because of this crisis I’ve already pointed out that the usual victims will be the real victims again. Not sure what the point of this thread is we know that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is going to push wheat prices up along with cooking oils which form the basis of survival in many of the worlds poorest people.

@kevcvs57 said
Sorry when did I ever give the impression I was a massive fan of capitalism you halfwit. I believe in socially controlled capitalism because, I do not believe in Stalinist despotism or Putinesque robber baron economics ideally I’d like to see left wing democratic socialism whereby the ultimate economic and political power is invested in truly democratically elected governments.

You mean you want to be more like Russia.

@kevcvs57 said
Sorry when did I ever give the impression I was a massive fan of capitalism you halfwit. I believe in socially controlled capitalism because, I do not believe in Stalinist despotism or Putinesque robber baron economics ideally I’d like to see left wing democratic socialism whereby the ultimate economic and political power is invested in truly democratically elected governments.

Did you know non paying members used to be able to post 2 threads per day and now RHP changed it to only 1?

https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/82677/massive-fire-breaks-out-at-poultry-farm-that-supplies-eggs-to-major.html

No matter who blames who, things really do look bleak.

I’m very thankful. Potatoes are doing well. Just picked a quart of fresh peppers, half-bushel of tomatoes, a little early squash, and three kinds of beans are coming on fast. Zucchini lookin’ good as well.

I am very thankful that all the tilling and planting and weeding are paying off. Before supper tonight, I will give thanks to The One Who Causes Food To Spring From The Earth. And I will certainly ask Him to bless all those hungry in the world. Not everyone is blessed as me with good soil in which to harvest.

A starving populace is a malleable populace.

@mchill said
Yes, it will mean less exports and probably higher food prices fueling further inflation, all of which the GOP will blame Joe Biden for. 🙄

Not to worry, Biden and the Dems will still be blaming Trump, somehow.

@metal-brain said
Ukraine produces and exports a lot of food. War means less exports. Will it lead to a world wide food shortage of wheat and other ag products?

I hope so. I need to lose some weight.

@liljo said
No matter who blames who, things really do look bleak.

I’m very thankful. Potatoes are doing well. Just picked a quart of fresh peppers, half-bushel of tomatoes, a little early squash, and three kinds of beans are coming on fast. Zucchini lookin’ good as well.

I am very thankful that all the tilling and planting and weeding are paying off. Before supper tonight, I will ...[text shortened]... ess all those hungry in the world. Not everyone is blessed as me with good soil in which to harvest.

I planted a lot of potatoes. I hope I can take care of them all when the potato beetles need controlling. I do not use pesticides. Bintje grows well here in northern Michigan.

https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/25/5-signs-they-are-creating-a-food-crisis/

@metal-brain said
I planted a lot of potatoes. Bintje

Again, you contradict yourself.

But this time, at least, I cannot blame you. This is something most people outside the Netherlands do not know.

Bintje is not a good potato. It's a poor excuse for a tuber which has no taste and no texture. It's the potato's equivalent of Domino's "Pizza". In fact, my grandfather - who also grew potatoes, preferably Eigenheimers - used to say: "Bintjes aren't potatoes. Bintjes happened to be planted next to potatoes and were mistaken for them."

Do yourself a favour and switch to Bildtstar.

@shallow-blue said
Again, you contradict yourself.

But this time, at least, I cannot blame you. This is something most people outside the Netherlands do not know.

Bintje is not a good potato. It's a poor excuse for a tuber which has no taste and no texture. It's the potato's equivalent of Domino's "Pizza". In fact, my grandfather - who also grew potatoes, preferably Eigenheime ...[text shortened]... anted next to potatoes and were mistaken for them."

Do yourself a favour and switch to Bildtstar.

How did I contradict myself?

Bintje tastes fine to me. It grows well in the soil here without any soil amendments. That is why I like it. I have no idea if Bildtstar would grow as well. Is that a Dutch variety as well?

@metal-brain said
How did I contradict myself?

Bintje tastes fine to me. It grows well in the soil here without any soil amendments.

For a year. It's a very, very hungry cultivar. It leeches nutrients from the soil like few others do. Before long, you'll find you need to use more artificial fertiliser for them alone than you ever bought for your entire garden. Don't say I didn't warn you.

@kevcvs57 said
I think your nickpicking here the price of gas has gone up in the US because of the global supply and demand equation same with wheat. No one is claiming that the 1st world is going to starve because of this crisis I’ve already pointed out that the usual victims will be the real victims again. Not sure what the point of this thread is we know that Russia’s invasion of Ukrain ...[text shortened]... es up along with cooking oils which form the basis of survival in many of the worlds poorest people.

Whenever the US tries to feed the 3rd World the people over there get upset because our food is driving local food producers out of business. It’s not as simple as that.