17 Apr 13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land
Has there been a debate on this movement I can read?
A friend has introduced me to this ideology- I don't feel like it makes sense, but still sifting through. I like that they are thinking about the world and structure, but society as a whole there needs to be structure.
Also 'Person'- I can't see a reference to it being a fictional persona or that 'understand' = to stand under their authority.
I'd be interested to read your take on it.....
17 Apr 13
Originally posted by yo its meIt's people who don't like following laws pretending there is a secret code that means they won't have to. (Spoiler; the secret code doesn't actually work)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYJzXkcJgEU
Has there been a debate on this movement I can read?
A friend has introduced me to this ideology- I don't feel like it makes sense, but still sifting through. I like that they are thinking about the world and structure, but society as a whole there needs to b ...[text shortened]... tand' = to stand under their authority.
I'd be interested to read your take on it.....
17 Apr 13
Originally posted by yo its meI don't have time to read through it at the moment, but what it sounds like you're describing is Anarchy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYJzXkcJgEU
Has there been a debate on this movement I can read?
A friend has introduced me to this ideology- I don't feel like it makes sense, but still sifting through. I like that they are thinking about the world and structure, but society as a whole there needs to b ...[text shortened]... tand' = to stand under their authority.
I'd be interested to read your take on it.....
20 Apr 13
Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15The logic is there with regards to licensing. Licensing is not very sensible. The problem is that we generally have what are called "natural rights" but these rights are not enforceable unless a government entity says it is a right.
They are insane.
They also believe that having a license to drive a car, have insurance, or register their vehicles is some weird violation of their "rights".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcceeKISp5E
Murray Rothbard wrote "A Libertarian Manifesto" which critically examines such things as licensing, Taxation, regulation of various and sundry things where regulation is not necessary.
20 Apr 13
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Originally posted by normbenignOh I agree, everyone should be allowed to drive 3 tons of steel in public at a mile a minute without demonstrating any kind of knowledge of traffic laws or having some sort of fiduciary responsibility if they run someone over, it's their right as a "free man" to travel anywhere they want by any means they want.
The logic is there with regards to licensing. Licensing is not very sensible. The problem is that we generally have what are called "natural rights" but these rights are not enforceable unless a government entity says it is a right.
Murray Rothbard wrote "A Libertarian Manifesto" which critically examines such things as licensing, Taxation, regulation of various and sundry things where regulation is not necessary.
Tomorrow I'm gonna fly my jet car at 1000 MPH downtown because it's my "right to travel" with no restrictions as a Free Man.
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15Exaggerations.
Oh I agree, everyone should be allowed to drive 3 tons of steel in public at a mile a minute without demonstrating any kind of knowledge of traffic laws or having some sort of fiduciary responsibility if they run someone over, it's their right as a "free man" to travel anywhere they want by any means they want.
Tomorrow I'm gonna fly my jet car at 1000 MPH downtown because it's my "right to travel" with no restrictions as a Free Man.
A tort system of law prevents people from behaving recklessly, or it punishes them when they do, without thousand of pages of laws and regulations that most people don't know and don't respect.
The silliness of most licensing is shown by my experience in Ohio. I was hired to peddle insurance, and had to have a license. To take the test, I had to complete a 40 hour course, really two of them one for Life and Health and another for Property and Casualty. It was easy for me, but many had problems, so while I was waiting to take my test, and afterwards, the school hired me to tutor students who had problems passing the State test.
Most of the people who I tutored ended up as more successful agents than I was.
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by yo its meThis is interesting (in a minor league way), however we have Federal, State, and County laws, and the freeman movement folks are going to have to live by them, or find another country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYJzXkcJgEU
Has there been a debate on this movement I can read?
A friend has introduced me to this ideology- I don't feel like it makes sense, but still sifting through. I like that they are thinking about the world and structure, but society as a whole there needs to b ...[text shortened]... tand' = to stand under their authority.
I'd be interested to read your take on it.....
I applaud these people for trying to find a better system of laws, but refusing to recognize existing laws in favor of there own is just not going to work.
23 Apr 13
Originally posted by bill718Isn't changing bad laws the purpose of a democracy?
This is interesting (in a minor league way), however we have Federal, State, and County laws, and the freeman movement folks are going to have to live by them, or find another country.
I applaud these people for trying to find a better system of laws, but refusing to recognize existing laws in favor of there own is just not going to work.