Gaza freedom march

Originally posted by sh76
says the completely neutral dispassionate observer... 🙄

Well, I'm not going to taint his argument by bringing in mine. I'm sorry if rationality is too much for you.

Originally posted by shavixmir

Why the 1967 borders?

Cos it is what the Palestinians say is what they want.

Principle of self-determination.

Originally posted by Redmike
Cos it is what the Palestinians say is what they want.

Principle of self-determination.

I personally hate to see Palestine reduced to half her glory. If someone took my child from me, I wouldn't be satisfied to receive an arm and part of a torso.

Originally posted by scherzo
I personally hate to see Palestine reduced to half her glory. If someone took my child from me, I wouldn't be satisfied to receive an arm and part of a torso.

I personally am not prepared to tell the Palestinians that I know better than them what conditions they should settle for.

Originally posted by Redmike
I personally am not prepared to tell the Palestinians that I know better than them what conditions they should settle for.

Did you know that the Bolsheviks were a minority?

Originally posted by scherzo
Did you know that the Bolsheviks were a minority?

Do you know what the word Bolshevik translates as?

Originally posted by Redmike
Do you know what the word Bolshevik translates as?

"Majority."

Originally posted by scherzo
"Majority."

So what's your point?

Originally posted by Redmike
So what's your point?

Just because somebody is in a minority doesn't mean that they can't be a people's party and that they can't come out victorious.

Now, what's your point?

Originally posted by scherzo
Just because somebody is in a minority doesn't mean that they can't be a people's party and that they can't come out victorious.

Now, what's your point?

My point is "I personally am not prepared to tell the Palestinians that I know better than them what conditions they should settle for."

While the diversion re the Bolsheviks was very, er, interesting, I was aware that pretty much every party has, at some point in their history, been in a minority.

So, diverting as that brief visit to the Bolsheviks was, it really doesn't alter my point.

Originally posted by Redmike
My point is "I personally am not prepared to tell the Palestinians that I know better than them what conditions they should settle for."

While the diversion re the Bolsheviks was very, er, interesting, I was aware that pretty much every party has, at some point in their history, been in a minority.

So, diverting as that brief visit to the Bolsheviks was, it really doesn't alter my point.

No, you certainly are not. A Palestinian could see right through you.

Originally posted by scherzo
No, you certainly are not. A Palestinian could see right through you.

Do you think it is acceptable for people from other parts of the world to tell the Palestinians what agreements they should/shouldn't agree to?

Originally posted by Redmike
Do you think it is acceptable for people from other parts of the world to tell the Palestinians what agreements they should/shouldn't agree to?

As a Palestinian organizer, I answer that question with a resounding no. So don't tell them what they should or shouldn't do -- leave that to us.

Originally posted by scherzo
As a Palestinian organizer, I answer that question with a resounding no. So don't tell them what they should or shouldn't do -- leave that to us.

Leaving aside your credentials as a Palestinian organiser.....

The stated view of the Palestinians is that they want a settlement based around the 1967 borders.

People elsewhere should respect that.

Which bit of this are you having difficulty with?

Originally posted by Redmike
Leaving aside your credentials as a Palestinian organiser.....

The stated view of the Palestinians is that they want a settlement based around the 1967 borders.

People elsewhere should respect that.

Which bit of this are you having difficulty with?

The stated view of the Palestinians is that they want a settlement based around the 1967 borders.

According to who? Mohammed Dahlan and Khaled Mesha'al?