Originally posted by KazetNagorraNo, poor,uneducated people tend to vote democrat. Obama's widest margin was among high shool drop-outs. In fact, every democrat going back 40 or 50 years has won with a wide margin among high school drop outs. As education level increased McCain got a greater percentage of the vote.
Okay, but intellectuals tend to vote Democrat, not Republican.
Liberals who try to pretend to be intellectual are callled psuedo-intellectuals. The whole idea of someone being called both intellectual and liberal just seems so contradictory to me. I can't even imagine someone being both. Its bizarre to even think about.
Originally posted by savage4731Doesn't this say more about you - your reading, your education, and presumably a lack of opportunity for you to interact or work with intellectuals - than it does about whether your claim that being a liberal intellectual is "contradictory"?
The whole idea of someone being called both intellectual and liberal just seems so contradictory to me. I can't even imagine someone being both. Its bizarre to even think about.
Originally posted by savage4731http://www.gallup.com/poll/112132/Election-Polls-Vote-Groups-2008.aspx
No, poor,uneducated people tend to vote democrat. Obama's widest margin was among high shool drop-outs. In fact, every democrat going back 40 or 50 years has won with a wide margin among high school drop outs. As education level increased McCain got a greater percentage of the vote.
Liberals who try to pretend to be intellectual are callled psuedo-int ...[text shortened]... ntradictory to me. I can't even imagine someone being both. Its bizarre to even think about.
Although being a postgrad is not really a guarantee of being up there with physics PhD's, it's safe to infer that intellectuals tend to vote Democrat.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThat's not even actual exit polls. This is though:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/112132/Election-Polls-Vote-Groups-2008.aspx
Although being a postgrad is not really a guarantee of being up there with physics PhD's, it's safe to infer that intellectuals tend to vote Democrat.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/national-exit-polls.html
No, the only thing that's safe to infer is that high school drop-outs will vote overwhelmingly democrat. The less education someone has the more likely they are to vote democrat.
Getting a post grad degree does not make someone an intellectual. Intellectuals are by definition well-read across a wide variety of subjects. Post-grad degrees are the exact opposite. They tend to specialize in a particular subject and they tend to hide away in academia for their entire lives. That's very anti-intellectual to me.
Originally posted by savage4731Your claim: "As education level increased McCain got a greater percentage of the vote" was obviously wrong.
That's not even actual exit polls. This is though:
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/national-exit-polls.html
No, the only thing that's safe to infer is that high school drop-outs will vote overwhelmingly democrat. The less education someone has the more likely they are to vote democrat.
Getting a post grad degree does not make ...[text shortened]... ey tend to hide away in academia for their entire lives. That's very anti-intellectual to me.
Originally posted by FMFI think it says that I'm much more well-read than you (I guarantee that's true) and most likely more educated than you (working on a masters).
Doesn't this say more about you - your reading, your education, and presumably a lack of opportunity for you to interact or work with intellectuals - than it does about whether your claim that being a liberal intellectual is "contradictory"?
I don't know mean you mean by a lack of opportunity blah blah blah. Obviously if you knew me that would sound utterly absurd. I mean you're from where? Indonesia? - I think it says more about you.
Originally posted by savage4731Didn't you just claim that a post-grad degree didn't mean someone is well-educated? Now you're claiming you are well educated even though you haven't got one yet!
I think it says that I'm much more well-read than you (I guarantee that's true) and most likely more educated than you (working on a masters).
I don't know mean you mean by a lack of opportunity blah blah blah. Obviously if you knew me that would sound utterly absurd. I mean you're from where? Indonesia? - I think it says more about you.
Originally posted by no1marauderOr maybe you don't know how to read a table:
Your claim: "As education level increased McCain got a greater percentage of the vote" was obviously wrong.
Here, let me dumb it down a notch for you
McCain got
Not a high school graduate: 35% of the vote
High school graduate: 46%
Some college: 47%
College: 48%
Originally posted by savage4731Well I recognize the intensity of your partisan bravado but for you to claim that being an intellectual and a liberal is "contradictory" and "bizarre" is a pretty peculiar kind of hyperbole. I can't quite see what you actually think the point of saying such things is.
I think it says that I'm much more well-read than you (I guarantee that's true) and most likely more educated than you (working on a masters).
I don't know mean you mean by a lack of opportunity blah blah blah. Obviously if you knew me that would sound utterly absurd. I mean you're from where? Indonesia? - I think it says more about you.
Originally posted by savage4731And 40% of those with a Post-Graduate education.
Or maybe you don't know how to read a table:
Here, let me dumb it down a notch for you
McCain got
Not a high school graduate: 35% of the vote
High school graduate: 46%
Some college: 47%
College: 48%
Guess you're really "dumbing it down".
Originally posted by no1marauderIs that what I said?
Didn't you just claim that a post-grad degree didn't mean someone is well-educated? Now you're claiming you are well educated even though you haven't got one yet!
Why don't yo try going back and reading what I actually said. You got about 15 things wring in that one little post.
Lots of herp derp in this thread but what you expect from high school drop outs?
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Originally posted by no1marauderApparently I didn't dumb it down enough.
And 40% of those with a Post-Graduate education.
Guess you're really "dumbing it down".
I was talking about the trend and the trend absolutely backs up what I said. Your talking about one aberration doesn't change anything.
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Originally posted by savage4731You really are a clown. Your claim was false, demonstrably false given the data from the link you provided. You should just admit it and move on. And post-graduate support of Democrats was hardly an "aberration" in 2008; they've won a majority of that vote in every Presidential election since 1992.
Apparently I didn't dumb it down enough.
I was talking about the trend and the trend absolutely backs up what I said. Your talking about one aberration doesn't change anything.
The number of voters who are high school dropouts is 4% of the total. This isn't enough to matter in an election. Looking at the numbers in that exit poll, an Obama voter was 4 times more likely to have a post-graduate education than to be a high school dropout.