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Governments... Legal vs Moral

Governments... Legal vs Moral

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Should governments try to claim that something is moral? Or should governments simply claim it is legal?

Case in point, sexual relationships

Should a government actively claim that one kind of sexual relationship is moral, make claims that there is nothing wrong with it?

For instance, two people living together without getting married. Should governments take steps to convince people there is nothing immoral about unmarried people living together?

How about open relationships where people are legally married but openly have lovers? Should the government take steps to claim that there is nothing immoral about such relationships and attempt to glorify them?

Of course there is the homosexual relationships. Should the government take steps to glorify and claim there is nothing wrong with such relationships?

It seems to me that as soon as the government takes an official position on the morality of a relationship and even takes steps to validate or normalize that kind of relationship, the government steps into promoting a certain worldview, aka religious view.

Not that the liberals around here will agree with that lol.

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The story that inspired me to start the thread

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen slammed as a disgrace the law passed by Viktor Orban's government banning the "promotion" of homosexuality to minors, while Germany's foreign minister said UEFA's decision sent the "wrong signal".

https://sports.yahoo.com/germany-turns-rainbow-coloured-protest-095711805.html


Refusing to use the government to display a pro-homosexuality symbol is anti-homosexuality? Homey don't think so.

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@eladar said
Of course there is the homosexual relationships. Should the government take steps to glorify and claim there is nothing wrong with such relationships?
The government doesn't "glorify" or demonize same-sex relationships, nor should it. Merely making something legal doesn't imply a moral stance.

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@vivify said
The government doesn't "glorify" or demonize same-sex relationships, nor should it. Merely making something legal doesn't imply a moral stance.
When the government displays the gay rainbow it is not glorifying same sex relationships?

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When the government displays the gay rainbow it is not glorifying same sex relationships?
I wasn't aware this happened. Where?

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@vivify said
I wasn't aware this happened. Where?
They tried to do it in Hungary. Read the link to the story.

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It even happened in Oklahoma

https://www.wpr.org/evers-orders-gay-pride-flag-fly-over-state-capitol

Wisconsin

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/01/lgbtq-pride-flag-raised-over-wisconsin-state-capitol-third-year/7488769002/

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@eladar said
They tried to do it in Hungary. Read the link to the story.
I thought you meant the U.S. government.

The one flaw in your OP is trying to equate homosexuality with moral issues like open marriages. Those are choices; homosexuality is not.

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@vivify said
I thought you meant the U.S. government.

The one flaw in your OP is trying to equate homosexuality with moral issues like open marriages. Those are choices; homosexuality is not.
The pracitce of any sort of sexuality is a choice.

If you deny that, then there is not use in trying to discuss things. You are simply a true believer without reason for your beliefs.

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Gay flags over Federal buildings

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/23/us/us-embassy-pride-flag.html

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@eladar said
The pracitce of any sort of sexuality is a choice.
The practice, yes; the sexuality, no.

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@vivify said
The practice, yes; the sexuality, no.
The practicing homosexuality is a morality issue just the same as the other practices.

Should governments like Hungary display the homosexual rainbow in support of homosexuality? If they do not, should they be reprimanded as if being done by the Germans?

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@eladar said
The practicing homosexuality is a morality issue
This is where your thread falls apart. We know no one is hurt by gay relationships, therefore there's no "moral" issue to discuss.

A moral issue considers the possibility of harm to another; like is it wrong for a poor man to steal food to feed his starving children. That's a moral issue. Abortion (which I support) is a moral issue, since there's a life being killed.

But homosexuality? That's not a moral issue.

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@vivify said
This is where your thread falls apart. We know no one is hurt by gay relationships, therefore there's no "moral" issue to discuss.

A moral issue considers the possibility of harm to another; like is it wrong for a poor man to steal food to feed his starving children. That's a moral issue. Abortion (which I support) is a moral issue, since there's a life being killed.

But homosexuality? That's not a moral issue.
So you get to define morality? You are a true believer. What is right and what is wrong and the reason for that being right or wrong is based on an individual's belief.

Forcing your view of morality on others is the basis for separation of church and state.

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@eladar said
So you get to define morality?
If someone isn't harmed by an action, it's not wrong. Period. That goes for gay relationships.

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