@sonhouse saidWomen should be able to go to the vet, the butcher or the plumber for an abortion. It's you and suzi that want to limit that, it's you that wants power over women sunstroker.
@boonon
And now you show your true colors, proving my point, you want power over women and this is the latest type of power you want.
@averagejoe1 said"Now what do you mean about benefitting people earning less than 100K?"
Your first 3 ad hominem sentences, and the last one, deserve no comment, not from anyone, really.
Now what do you mean about benefitting people earning less than 100K? See if you can answer this without applying Marxist philosophy. Its never worked, you know. A friend told me yesterday that he will always vote dem because they will create giveaway programs that wi ...[text shortened]... unge chair. Loserville, Zahlanzi. All of your ideas are. Has marxism ever worked in any country?
means that people making 100k a year aren't in the millionaire and billionaire bracket so they don't get help from the whores in congress . And they are not in the "desperate 40 million" you lie about wanting to help.
They however also need help. Maybe it's in the form of help paying student debt loans. Maybe it's in the form of healthcare that could still bankrupt them otherwise or would give them the safety net to look for a better job or start a business. Maybe it's in the form of federally funded public schools instead of the insane idea of local property taxes. Maybe it's in the thousand different social programs that are boosting prosperity in all other countries that are smart enough to understand what Marxism really means.
"See if you can answer this without applying Marxist philosophy. Its never worked, you know"
we don't know because it's never been implemented. Which smart people know and you are not in that club
Some marxist ideas have been implemented to some degree in places like sweeden, norway, Germany, Canada and to some degree, every other prosperous country.
"A friend told me yesterday that he will always vote dem because they will create giveaway programs that will satiate the people you speak of, so that they Will Not Rebel. Zahlanzi, does that sound healthy to our economy? Zahlanzi, would you treat your family members like that? Satiate them?"
Inventing imaginary friends? no it doesn't sound healthy.
But yes. The role of the state is to make nature easier. We didn't leave the wilderness to band together so that's the same eat or be eaten, survival of the fittest. we band together so that we're able to build roads together, not so that one of us ends up owning 99%of everything.
I don't give a fuk about someone telling me the economy is great if i have to work 2 jobs to not starve. Who the fuk is it great for.
also if you mention any form of reagonomics in response to the above paragraph i will dig up Reagan's corpse and shove his femur straight up you ass
"Here is $100, son, now got outside and sit in the lounge chair."
Nu dumbass, it's more like "here is 100 moneys more for helping build that 30 000 moneys car, i know it's still only a fraction of the car's worth and i am still keeping 90% of the profit but at least you can now maybe start saving towards a car, which means I will still benefit from giving you this increased salary"
Poor people spend money. Rich people hoard it. Because fuking duh, there isn't enough stuff in the world for billionaires to spend on in 10 lifetimes. THAT'S why people in countries with good social programs thrive and their economies are still good.
@suzianne saidSuzia says that to question the reason that our government has done away with our Border (what other country would do that?) and allowed over 6M aliens onto our streets and onto our everything else, is stupid.
Because it's a stupid question. Like I told you before.
Is that a stupid question? Is everyone with Suzianne on that one? Brrrrrrrrr
@averagejoe1 said6M?
Suzia says that to question the reason that our government has done away with our Border (what other country would do that?) and allowed over 6M aliens onto our streets and onto our everything else, is stupid.
Is that a stupid question? Is everyone with Suzianne on that one? Brrrrrrrrr
Seriously, stop lying.
@sonhouse saiduhhhh, control women? We want to control women? What? I wouldn't even have time to wrestle with that. And why would I? Start a thread on reasons to control women.
@quackquack
People against abortion just use that as a cover up for their real goal, it is a power play, they want to control women and that is the bottom line.
@zahlanzi saidYes zahlooney bamboozle I saw this in walt disney comic too, Uncle scrooge used to fill his swimming pool with money then he was diving in it.
Poor people spend money. Rich people hoard it. Because fuking duh, there isn't enough stuff in the world for billionaires to spend on in 10 lifetimes.
@sonhouse saidAgain you are wrong. I do not want power over women. Sigh... so wrong. I don't want women using abortion as birth control, murder, it makes me sick to think of dismembering a baby for convenience. You on the other hand obviously like it. We disagree.
@boonon
And now you show your true colors, proving my point, you want power over women and this is the latest type of power you want.
@boonon saidI actually don't get waht yall mean, power over women.
Again you are wrong. I do not want power over women. Sigh... so wrong. I don't want women using abortion as birth control, murder, it makes me sick to think of dismembering a baby for convenience. You on the other hand obviously like it. We disagree.
@AverageJoe1
None of you it seems will never understand your subconscious desire to control women. You want to force women you don't even know to never have an abortion and that is the definition of control but you are all to stupid to ever understand that.
@sonhouse saidWhere ever the line is or if there is no line, it's me that believes it's a womans choice when, who, how she gets an abortion. It's you that wants power over women, it's screwy kablooey that wants to limit women's choice in this matter.
@AverageJoe1
None of you it seems will never understand your subconscious desire to control women. You want to force women you don't even know to never have an abortion and that is the definition of control but you are all to stupid to ever understand that.
You accuse the pro-lifers of wanting power over women, you do too sunstroker, it's called hypocrisy.
@sonhouse saidMay I ask you this, regarding power over women. If abortion were no issue at all, speaking only of male-female relationships, are you saying that we want to have power over them? That is what I don't understand. If the existence of my wife means more to me than anything, how could having that power make any sense?
@AverageJoe1
None of you it seems will never understand your subconscious desire to control women. You want to force women you don't even know to never have an abortion and that is the definition of control but you are all to stupid to ever understand that.