https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/08/tuesday-election-female-rights-popular/
Tuesday’s election results suggest that the Republican legislative strategy of “taking people’s rights away for no clear reason” was not an overwhelming success at the ballot box. Potential Childbearing Vessels on Legs contumaciously insist on continuing to see themselves as fully realized people deserving of the protection of the law, and, unfortunately, they can still vote, and some of them even have friends who vote with them.
Given the options of “people have constitutionally protected rights over their own bodies and the course of their own lives” or “people can potentially see those rights whisked away at any time without warning,” Ohio voters overwhelmingly preferred the first thing. Given the option of creating a Republican majority in their state legislature that could permit their governor to sign a 15-week abortion ban into law, Virginia voters refused, apparently indifferent to the fact that the governor would be wearing a fleece vest and speaking in soft tones when he did so!
When confronted with questions such as “What should be in my library? Books, or just empty shelves and a scowling member of Moms for Liberty standing with folded arms and hissing whenever anyone dares approach?” people overwhelmingly selected the first thing. When they were given a choice between Deciding and Having Things Decided For Them, Deciding proved surprisingly popular.
These results were a setback for those who viewed letting people exercise rights over their own bodies as exhausting, pointless and sometimes icky. This trend also baffled many Republicans who had been running campaigns confidently asserting that they knew what was best for enormous swaths of the population, who would doubtless be relieved not to have to wake up each morning and keep pretending to be people who could make their own decisions.
It has been suggested that this is why voting is such a flawed method for determining what ought to happen, and some people are working so hard to do away with it. “Let Dave decide everything on everyone else’s behalf,” while popular with Dave, tends not to be popular with everyone else. And the thing is, as Justice Samuel Alito noted in his Dobbs decision, “Women are not without electoral or political power.”
Tuesday’s election suggests that people being treated like people, rather than not, is still inexplicably popular. Who can say how long this fad will last? If through 2024, there might be more problems!
@zahlanzi saidI'm pro choice but your analysis is just flat out stupid. People who are against abortion -- whether the are correct or not -- feel they are protecting rights too. I am certain they do not just wake up in the morning and feel that the world would be better if people had fewer rights.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/08/tuesday-election-female-rights-popular/
Tuesday’s election results suggest that the Republican legislative strategy of “taking people’s rights away for no clear reason” was not an overwhelming success at the ballot box. Potential Childbearing Vessels on Legs contumaciously insist on continuing to see themselves as fully r ...[text shortened]... bly popular. Who can say how long this fad will last? If through 2024, there might be more problems!
@quackquack saidBut that is exactly what they’re aiming for.
I'm pro choice but your analysis is just flat out stupid. People who are against abortion -- whether the are correct or not -- feel they are protecting rights too. I am certain they do not just wake up in the morning and feel that the world would be better if people had fewer rights.
@zahlanzi saidBut, Babies having Rights is not popular. F’em.?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/08/tuesday-election-female-rights-popular/
Tuesday’s election results suggest that the Republican legislative strategy of “taking people’s rights away for no clear reason” was not an overwhelming success at the ballot box. Potential Childbearing Vessels on Legs contumaciously insist on continuing to see themselves as fully r ...[text shortened]... bly popular. Who can say how long this fad will last? If through 2024, there might be more problems!
OK, since you are digging a hole, Iowa (or Ohio, I can’t keep up..) says OK to abort a baby just before birth. I am going to assume that you cannot believe that, but take it a step further, and ask you when you think a limit should be on when to abort a baby. Just you….. I’m not talking about the populace.
Trick question alert.
@averagejoe1 saidThe Republican Party, home of the outrageously overblown and demonstrably ridiculous overarching hyperbole.
But, Babies having Rights is not popular. F’em.?
OK, since you are digging a hole, Iowa (or Ohio, I can’t keep up..) says OK to abort a baby just before birth. I am going to assume that you cannot believe that, but take it a step further, and ask you when you think a limit should be on when to abort a baby. Just you….. I’m not talking about the populace.
Trick question alert.
Answer a question for me, Mr. I-answer-all-questions-unlike-liberals. When was the last time a woman terminated a pregnancy "just before birth"? Was it within our lifetimes?
@of-ants-and-imps saidWhat does this have to do with this topic?
People wanting to be seen, because that's what really hurts, not being known.
Anything at all?
@zahlanzi said“Thank goodness that most of the states in this country don’t allow you to put everything on the ballot, because pure democracies are not the way to run a country,” Rick Santorum (R - PA) said Tuesday night on Newsmax.
“Let Dave decide everything on everyone else’s behalf,” while popular with Dave, tends not to be popular with everyone else.
is my favourite bit
the scowling mom for liberty bit comes second
Who remembers Mitch McConnell not letting Barack Obama have his SC pick confirmed in the Senate, saying "let's leave it up to the voters", even though the election was almost a year away?
@suzianne saidBut the issue is, it is that it is legal. To pull a baby and send it to a grave, via a dumpster of some sort called Medical Waste. And you are a woman? Brrrrrrrr
The Republican Party, home of the outrageously overblown and demonstrably ridiculous overarching hyperbole.
Answer a question for me, Mr. I-answer-all-questions-unlike-liberals. When was the last time a woman terminated a pregnancy "just before birth"? Was it within our lifetimes?
@averagejoe1 saidAnd never mind that it's not actually ever done.
But the issue is, it is that it is legal. To pull a baby and send it to a grave, via a dumpster of some sort called Medical Waste. And you are a woman? Brrrrrrrr
Gotta keep those Republican voters righteously pissed off at something that never actually happens! You know, like voter fraud.
@zahlanzi saidA right is the sovereignty to act without the permission of others.
“Let Dave decide everything on everyone else’s behalf,” while popular with Dave, tends not to be popular with everyone else.
is my favourite bit
the scowling mom for liberty bit comes second
Good to see you talking about rights zahlooney bamboozle, you're an abuser of them but maybe through discussion you'll waken to your own hypocrisies.
Sarcasm alert: Who knew it would be about abortion (haw haw).
One thing the pro-deathers (as opposed to the pro-lifers) always like to avoid is:
Where is the line for you? Are you Ok with 5 minute before birth abortions. Can you please avoid the usual cop out i.e. they're rare. We need a line. If, for any reason, a mother decides at the moment of birth to abort the pregnancy should she be able to?
No1 has a line. Kudos to him for defining it. The line used to be when the foetus is viable without the mother, and there is merit in this argument in that the foetus is nothing more than a parasitical maggot, but the pro-deathers have had to abandon this as medical science has moved the line wayyyyy back.
Are you fine with 5 minute before birth abortions?
If yes, you're a lunatic.
If no, then how did you decide where the line should be.
I strongly suggest that you avoid answering this again, as is your, and screwy suzi's, long record.
@wajoma saidHa. 7 clicks up I asked a question, and ended it by saying ..."Trick Question Alert!"
A right is the sovereignty to act without the permission of others.
Good to see you talking about rights zahlooney bamboozle, you're an abuser of them but maybe through discussion you'll waken to your own hypocrisies.
Sarcasm alert: Who knew it would be about abortion (haw haw).
One thing the pro-deathers (as opposed to the pro-lifers) always like to a ...[text shortened]...
I strongly suggest that you avoid answering this again, as is your, and screwy suzi's, long record.
Because, Zahlanzi in his long post essentially said that govt should not decide the gestation period, etc etc, and you just deflated him like I was going to.
Cool. I read your post twice and you nail him. By that I mean that he is in a state of conflict. He will write back about Trump. The Lib Default!!
YOu could tell him you cant have your cake and eat it too, buot he would never get the nuance.
Great Post. Do these guys EVER win a debate? I always do, as do you. They lack common sense, logic and rationale.
Re abortion, a baby can survive aftter 28 weeks. The Sonhouse refuses to call it a baby until it is on birth table. I once asked what would you call a twin brother who was not born for another 2 hours? None of these weaklings ever answered. Probably because of my bad reputation.
Thumb Up.
@AverageJoe1
And who are these queer people who will give a thumb down (as to your post) and just move along with no comment?