How bout let women get any abortion they want, but be required to undergo no-more-pregnancy procedures. If they don't want to have and CARE for a child, then restrict their ability to have any more. It would in effect save a lot of children, and save a lot of our government money. The less babies, the less welfare.
I know that I am dreaming, because liberals will soon prevail, and have a society of no retrictions for anything.
@suzianne saidPlease quote the lie.
I'm done. You are spewing idiot arguments and you are also lying.
Women would not normally choose some butcher to lay hands on her. Women also do not choose to have an abortion "5 min before birth". These are irrationalities that you presume to believe women make because you don't mind relegating women to second-class citizen status. This is, by the way, also what dri ...[text shortened]... ing at an idiot to anything approaching "debate", so I'm done. Vomit up your sexism somewhere else.
You've groundlessly baselessly accused me of being a hypocrite but have been unable to explain how or why.
Now you accuse me of lying. Please quote the lie. I have given an example of how to do this when I quoted, verbatim, two of your lies. (Post 13 on page 6)
Please quote the lie.
@averagejoe1 saidThat’s because you’re a right wing theocrat joe. I wasn’t taking to you I was talking about you
Does anyone detect any reasoning here? I want to say..huh?
I would imagine you say “huh” quite a lot Joe
@wajoma saidSo you’re saying registered clinics abort babies and chuck them in dumpsters for anti choice folk to find.
Not the point. suzi screwy dablooey has said late term abortions never happen, that babies can be found in dumpsters means it's is reasonable to assume late term abortions do happen and if they're legal they're bound to increase with abortionists now legally advertising their services and abilities to handle, let's call them; more human baby appearing maggots.
Now back to t ...[text shortened]... S CHOICE"? and not others? Is this proving to be an inconsistency and thus the reluctance to answer.
That sounds like a back street abortion or possibly a late miscarriage but given in some states even these might be prosecuted it should not be surprising that women resort simply taking care if it themselves. Perhaps with the right people in power this might be done in much safer and earlier.
@averagejoe1 saidWhat is wrong with you?
How bout let women get any abortion they want, but be required to undergo no-more-pregnancy procedures. If they don't want to have and CARE for a child, then restrict their ability to have any more. It would in effect save a lot of children, and save a lot of our government money. The less babies, the less welfare.
I know that I am dreaming, because liberals will soon prevail, and have a society of no retrictions for anything.
That's not reproductive freedom. At all.
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@suzianne saidYes you are wrong as usual. when your family member, friend, co-worker and or any other woman is pregnant, you do not ask them hw the fetus is doing. Do you ? No, you ask how the baby is doing. Simple english.
The only ones irrationally using the term "baby" to describe something that is NOT a baby are idiots who are anti-abortion, desperate to remove rights from women. By using the term "baby", you are making the fetus more important than it is, even elevating an abortion to murder.
You would be admonished during an actual debate to use words how they are defined, not how YOU wish to define them.
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I added one to make it FOUR. I notice you did not answer Suzianne's question, when was the last time a late stage abortion was done? Say 8 months or so? Or 6. Tell me Mr Abortion expert.
@sonhouse saidNo, worse than that. They are spewing fear, saying women will now terminate a pregnancy "5 min before birth". They're lying. Rational decisions are made way, WAY earlier than that.
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I added one to make it FOUR. I notice you did not answer Suzianne's question, when was the last time a late stage abortion was done? Say 8 months or so? Or 6. Tell me Mr Abortion expert.
@AverageJoe1
So a 12 yo girl gets pregnant from rape or incest and gets an abortion so now you want to sterilize her. You are SUCH a humanitarian. Did you by any chance think about the idea that later in life said woman would now have the ability mentally and financially to be able to bring up a child, but I guess thinking about the real future of such women is beyond your ability to analyze, the future comes into play for you ONLY on how the stock market is doing and that is it.
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And you NEVER ask the question how is the pregnant one doing, is she psychologically capable of raising a child at that time in her life? She might ten years later say if she is financially able to raise children but does that kind of thinking ever occur to the likes of you?
It's funny how you value the life of a fetus with no brain developed WAY over the life of the pregnant girl. It shows how much you care for actual females, you want CONTROL and more CONTROL, and SCREW what is going on in the woman's life.
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@sonhouse saidWrong. Why is she in that predicament in the first place? Maybe more education at home, maybe more fathers in their lives? Maybe adoption? How many young, young girls are in that situation? I am against abortion as contraception.
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And you NEVER ask the question how is the pregnant one doing, is she psychologically capable of raising a child at that time in her life? She might ten years later say if she is financially able to raise children but does that kind of thinking ever occur to the likes of you?
It's funny how you value the life of a fetus with no brain developed WAY over the life o ...[text shortened]... r actual females, you want CONTROL and more CONTROL, and SCREW what is going on in the woman's life.
@boonon saidSuianne will not answer this question. If she does not, put a WIN in your journal. It will give you satisfaction, as we conservatives are all about winning. Liberals want eveyone equal, which takes the word 'win' out of their dictionary.
Yes you are wrong as usual. when your family member, friend, co-worker and or any other woman is pregnant, you do not ask them hw the fetus is doing. Do you ? No, you ask how the baby is doing. Simple english.
She will not answer.
@sonhouse saidSonhouse still harping. Isn't everyone here in agreement that the issue of rape or incest should be aborted? If I could learn how, I would do it myself.
@AverageJoe1
So a 12 yo girl gets pregnant from rape or incest and gets an abortion so now you want to sterilize her. You are SUCH a humanitarian. Did you by any chance think about the idea that later in life said woman would now have the ability mentally and financially to be able to bring up a child, but I guess thinking about the real future of such women is beyond your ...[text shortened]... to analyze, the future comes into play for you ONLY on how the stock market is doing and that is it.
Please Sonhouse. Could you just do Trump? OMG what am I saying!
@sonhouse saidI have no idea what he is saying here.
@boonon
And you NEVER ask the question how is the pregnant one doing, is she psychologically capable of raising a child at that time in her life? She might ten years later say if she is financially able to raise children but does that kind of thinking ever occur to the likes of you?
It's funny how you value the life of a fetus with no brain developed WAY over the life o ...[text shortened]... r actual females, you want CONTROL and more CONTROL, and SCREW what is going on in the woman's life.