@no1marauder saidI get the cynicism coming at me, Sonhouse, but what about issues? Has Trump not done a good job? Could you just come right out and say it? NO aliens coming in. Market breaks records. Iran cannot pull off death to America. NATO has to start paying. Tariffs are leveled off. Oil is down. Gas is down, eggs are down! Inflation below 3%. My fingers are getting tired.
I can't imagine how it feels to be such a groveling bootlicker.
So, how 'bout it?
@wildgrass saidnonononono.....Why can they not have signs that say TAXPAYERS PAY OUR STUDENT LOANS?
An extra $150 billion for defense when we already don't know where that money goes and we are withdrawing from overseas conflicts?
Explain it. It certainly isn't America first!
Wgrass, you surprise me. Leave others to change subjects.
Why can they not have signs that say TAXPAYERS PAY OUR STUDENT LOANS?
@Zahlanzi saidYou are breaking the 12th Commandment again. You are getting personal about me..avjoe.
we may never know if you really are this dumb and such a spineless sycophant for the Trump or if the only way you get an erection is to pretend to be the above in this forum.
either way, you're a worthless human being and i feel sorry for you and the americans that are not maga cultists who have to share a citizenship with you
Here you write a post that has not one issue in it. Could you maybe tell us why losers have signs that say "Pay Student Debt', and do not have a more specific sign that says "Taxpayers Pay Our Student Debt"?
You could at least be clever. Being ad hominem does not go far, but clever does.
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@AverageJoe1 saidYou keep writing things that are blatantly untrue no matter how many times you are corrected.
I get the cynicism coming at me, Sonhouse, but what about issues? Has Trump not done a good job? Could you just come right out and say it? NO aliens coming in. Market breaks records. Iran cannot pull off death to America. NATO has to start paying. Tariffs are leveled off. Oil is down. Gas is down, eggs are down! Inflation below 3%. My fingers are getting tired.
So, how 'bout it?
Re-check the figures from DHS and tell me again "NO aliens coming in".
Inflation was under 3% in 2024. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2025/consumer-price-index-2024-in-review.htm
Trump's policies have accomplished virtually nothing of consequence and what he has accomplished has been done illegally (like reducing border crossings by unilaterally ending asylum despite it being protected by the law).
He just signed a bill that will add $3.3 trillion to the deficit, with $1 trillion in tax breaks to the top 1% and you're still crying about student debt relief (that never happened) costing taxpayers? What taxpayers are going to pay that bill?
Of course, this is what is expected of a spoiled rich kid who never had to pay his own freight and stiffed people and businesses he owed money to.
@AverageJoe1 saidAs explained to you dozens of times, student loan forgiveness of money owed to the government means the loans don't get paid period. Taxpayers don't pay them.
nonononono.....Why can they not have signs that say TAXPAYERS PAY OUR STUDENT LOANS?
Wgrass, you surprise me. Leave others to change subjects.
Why can they not have signs that say TAXPAYERS PAY OUR STUDENT LOANS?
It's just like the $1 trillion the top 1% would have paid but now don't have to because of the bill just passed except the benefits would go to working and middle class educated young people rather than the uber rich.
@no1marauder saidMarauder says that the money that is owed to SOMEWHERE INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT, by students, to pay their tuitions ……………"…Wait, let me be on hold a moment……
As explained to you dozens of times, student loan forgiveness of money owed to the government means the loans don't get paid period. Taxpayers don't pay them.
It's just like the $1 trillion the top 1% would have paid but now don't have to because of the bill just passed except the benefits would go to working and middle class educated young people rather than the uber rich.
This money,,,that was given, which is now owed,…..where did it come from, as we all know that the government has no money.
Yes, I have to be on hold until Marauder tells us where the money the students had received came from, to now be, as Marauder says, never paid back.
The govt has no money of its own. What they disburse for all purposes is tax money as far as I can tell.
Try this. Everyone in our town sends in $3000 annual taxes. Out of that, the town loans ten of our students $10,000 each to go to college. Total of $100k. Marauder says above..’The loans don’t get paid period.” And that taxpayers do not pay the loans/tuitions.
The town treasury DID have $700,000 in it. It loaned out $100k. It will be short by the UNREPLENISHED $100k. It will only have $600k in it.
The taxpayers just lost $100k. Further, the city will raise taxes to cover the shortfall.
And here this clown wants to argue inflation and economics with me, Averagejoe1?!?!??
@no1marauder saidSonhouse economic discussions are enough for me, that is plenty.
You keep writing things that are blatantly untrue no matter how many times you are corrected.
Re-check the figures from DHS and tell me again "NO aliens coming in".
Inflation was under 3% in 2024. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2025/consumer-price-index-2024-in-review.htm
Trump's policies have accomplished virtually nothing of consequence and what he has accomplis ...[text shortened]... ed rich kid who never had to pay his own freight and stiffed people and businesses he owed money to.
No illegal aliens, you really got me there😒
Your last paragraph is recycled Sonhouse, except u left out 42 felonies.
Marauder says Trump has accomplished virtually nothing. Y’all reading Marauder are ya?.
Note Marauder intimates opening borders
Always be aware that conservatives chuckle at lib posts deriding president Trump, when we know full well that every comment is underpinned by frantic hate. And more recently, disappointment in your “leaders”🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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@AverageJoe1 saidThe taxpayers don't get paid back, you pitiful fool.
Marauder says that the money that is owed to SOMEWHERE INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT, by students, to pay their tuitions ……………"…Wait, let me be on hold a moment……
This money,,,that was given, which is now owed,…..where did it come from, as we all know that the government has no money.
Yes, I have to be on hold until Marauder tells us where the money the students had r ...[text shortened]... shortfall.
And here this clown wants to argue inflation and economics with me, Averagejoe1?!?!??
It's just like a tax cut, but for some reason you think a tax cut that causes a $3.3 trillion deficit is great, but a student loan program that never happened is terrible.
You don't make any sense.
EDIT: Actually, unlike a tax cut for the top 1%, the taxpayers got something for their money i.e. a better educated work force which is a necessity in a competitive global economy.
@AverageJoe1 saidBTW, I hate to disappoint you, but the BBB contains provisions allowing those who receive student loans to pay back a fraction of what they owe:
Marauder says that the money that is owed to SOMEWHERE INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT, by students, to pay their tuitions ……………"…Wait, let me be on hold a moment……
This money,,,that was given, which is now owed,…..where did it come from, as we all know that the government has no money.
Yes, I have to be on hold until Marauder tells us where the money the students had r ...[text shortened]... shortfall.
And here this clown wants to argue inflation and economics with me, Averagejoe1?!?!??
"The other is the Repayment Assistance Plan, which will involve monthly payments between 1% and 10% of a borrower's discretionary income (current offerings set payments at 10%, 15% or 20% of income)."
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/02/student-loans-house-big-beautiful-bill
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@no1marauder saidRight. The taxpayers, who put the money into the city treasury, DO NOT GET THAT MONEY PAID BACK INTO (their) TREASURY. This is what I said, Sonhouse. I said that.
The taxpayers don't get paid back, you pitiful fool.
It's just like a tax cut, but for some reason you think a tax cut that causes a $3.3 trillion deficit is great, but a student loan program that never happened is terrible.
You don't make any sense.
EDIT: Actually, unlike a tax cut for the top 1%, the taxpayers got something for their money i.e. a better educated work force which is a necessity in a competitive global economy.
Everyone get this please, this poster needs a brain transplant.
Oh, wait, you’re not Sonhouse
The money existed it was loaned to students it went to tuitions. It is gone. Spent. This poster acts like the money never existed. And, I have absolutely no idea what the rest of his post means. As Trump said in the Debate, I don’t think Marauder does, either. In any event, it would be quite irrelevant. Don’t bother.
@no1marauder saidTotally irrelevant. Taxpayers are stuck w every dollar loaned out.
BTW, I hate to disappoint you, but the BBB contains provisions allowing those who receive student loans to pay back a fraction of what they owe:
"The other is the Repayment Assistance Plan, which will involve monthly payments between 1% and 10% of a borrower's discretionary income (current offerings set payments at 10%, 15% or 20% of income)."
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/02/student-loans-house-big-beautiful-bill
@AverageJoe1 saidStop stupidly saying someone wants "Taxpayers to pay their student debt" then.
Right. The taxpayers, who put the money into the city treasury, DO NOT GET THAT MONEY PAID BACK INTO (their) TREASURY. This is what I said, Sonhouse. I said that.
Everyone get this please, this poster needs a brain transplant.
Oh, wait, you’re not Sonhouse
The money existed it was loaned to students it went to tuitions. It is gone. Spent. This poster acts ...[text shortened]... te, I don’t think Marauder does, either. In any event, it would be quite irrelevant. Don’t bother.
That is what YOU said and you've said it over and over and over again. It's wrong.
@AverageJoe1 saidAnd taxpayers are stuck with every dollar of the $3.3 trillion deficit that Trump just burdened them with. Except they got little or nothing to show for it.
Totally irrelevant. Taxpayers are stuck w every dollar loaned out.
@AverageJoe1 said"You are breaking the 12th Commandment again. You are getting personal about me..avjoe."
You are breaking the 12th Commandment again. You are getting personal about me..avjoe.
Here you write a post that has not one issue in it. Could you maybe tell us why losers have signs that say "Pay Student Debt', and do not have a more specific sign that says "Taxpayers Pay Our Student Debt"?
You could at least be clever. Being ad hominem does not go far, but clever does.
I am speaking directly about your character, i guess i am
"Here you write a post that has not one issue in it."
it does have an issue in it: me saying it's impossible to tell if you're this dumb in real life or you can't get an erection except by playing a dumb character on this forum.
"Could you maybe tell us why losers have signs that say "Pay Student Debt', and do not have a more specific sign that says "Taxpayers Pay Our Student Debt"?"
No, you're to dumb to have a useful discussion on it or you play a character to dumb to have an honest discussion about it.
"You could at least be clever. Being ad hominem does not go far, but clever does."
After all these years you still can't tell the difference between ad hominem arguments and straight up insulting you.
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@no1marauder saidIf the town loans $100,000 out of its treasury, which monies had been PUT there by people who pay taxes, AND that money never is never repaid, then the town is OUT $100,000.
Stop stupidly saying someone wants "Taxpayers to pay their student debt" then.
That is what YOU said and you've said it over and over and over again. It's wrong.
Tell that to your loyal followers, and follow up by explaining that the $100,000 was not paid by the taxpayers. I will be a follower, too. We are all ears.