@earl-of-trumps saidIn the 19th and early 20th centuries, a number of non-Western countries concluded that the success of the West in scientific, industrial, economic, and military terms was evidence that Western societies were models to be emulated.
If the Chinese and Japanese were STOOPID enough to listen to Westerners, they *deserve* to be thought of as inferior people.
This was certainly true in Meiji-era (post-1868) Japan and in Ataturk's (post-1923) Turkey; in both cases, the ruling elite embarked on a deliberate programme of Westernisation under the assumption that the success of Western societies was rooted (at least in part) in specific features of Western culture. Thus late 19th-century Japan sought to industrialise, but also borrowed elements of Western legal codes and a constitution inspired by Prussia's, established universities on the Western model, and so forth. After the Ottoman Empire was defeated in World War I, Kemal Ataturk, who considered its official religion, Islam, a retrograde force, judged it in part responsible for Turkey's falling behind the West. He thus embarked on a programme of secularisation, with sharia law abandoned in favour of legal codes derived from France, Germany and Switzerland.
The problem is psychology itself can be used as a weapon by what it considers to be a disorder or not.
And, even if psychology stayed out of these things, it would be completely inadequate in the minds of everyone.
Psychology has to be a battleground. There's no other way around it.
But it is useful for illustrating something to us: many religionless societies are not at all what Western atheists would expect them to be.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidNobody but I offered the segue to Princess to accuse Westerners of it.
Who thinks of Chinese or Japanese as inferior people?
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@teinosuke saidOut of context, teinosuke. Here is the text that inspired my retort that you quoted.
In the 19th and early 20th centuries, a number of non-Western countries concluded that the success of the West in scientific, industrial, economic, and military terms was evidence that Western societies were models to be emulated.
This was certainly true in Meiji-era (post-1868) Japan and in Ataturk's (post-1923) Turkey; in both cases, the ruling elite embarked on a deli ...[text shortened]... on, with sharia law abandoned in favour of legal codes derived from France, Germany and Switzerland.
Duches64 said:
"It's Westerners (particularly Christians) who essentially taught the Chinese and Japanese to fear or hate homosexual people."
And EoT said:
If the Chinese and Japanese were STOOPID enough to listen to Westerners, they *deserve* to be thought of as inferior people.
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The whole thing has nothing to do with the Japanese studying the British Navy, or studying Western ways in economy etc.
@earl-of-trumps saidOh shut the hell up with your “leftist” BS.
I demonized a LEFTIST initiative for it hypocrisy. That is why known leftist operatives in RHP would not be impressed.
It had NOTHING whatsoever to do with my alleged picking on trans women.
Again you lie like a rug.
And I have yet to see a poster that you rejoindered without a scad of lying ad hominins
Oh, excuse me.... and that is well-known by RHP posters. So smile and take it.
You really are a broken record player with retarded tendencies.
If we wanted right-wing opinions, we’d clang the nuthouse bell, burn a cross and spank our monkeys to idols of the grand dragon wazoo master of WASP moronity.
And nobody is clanging the bell. Ergo, back in your trailer and shut up until we want to hear stupidity.
I think Shav is kind of justified in his perception that you tend to focus on the West more than any other place. I mean, to some extent that is natural, this is an English language forum, after all.
But you do seem to be a bit obsessive about the West, and you point out a lot of negative things about it that are pretty common globally.
