how low…is too low?

@averagejoe1 said
Tell us this about living wage. Mott's example above, a divorced mother of 3. What is a living wage for her and the 3 children.
Now, having answered that, tell us what a similar person, no children, no responsibilities, same job, same age, same hair color.........tell us if she should make the same wage that the mother of 3 makes. Hint....they don't both need the same amount to live on.

You will not answer this question.

@mott-the-hoople said
how do you know that?

@mott-the-hoople said
for those that (tip) with your card…how much does the waiter/ress get?

@no1marauder said
To be fair, I did read that businesses are allowed to deduct credit card fees from tips.

I'll ask my server from now on if their business does this and either adjust my tip upward or use cash (though I don't usually carry much cash).

@no1marauder said
To be fair, I did read that businesses are allowed to deduct credit card fees from tips.

I'll ask my server from now on if their business does this and either adjust my tip upward or use cash (though I don't usually carry much cash).

@wajoma said
Use cash while you can, hopefully the tips are only partly reported to the irs, the end of cash is on the horizon and all the card drones are bringing it on faster.

1/ Make it easy to use the card.
2/ Make it hard to use cash. This is happening in NZ with fewer and fewer ATMs and you need to notify the bank before withdrawing above $x, some businesses now not accepting cas ...[text shortened]... l surveillance and control.

It's going to happen, we wont stop it, but we can resist for a while.

@kevcvs57 said
Or just much more convenient and logical. Cash is only a representation of whatever value the system places on it. We have no real control, we never have and probably never will. I only have to get cash if I want a product or service from a Luddite or voluntarily in order to pay a busker or help a forgotten soul on the street but what a waste of matériels time and energy cash actually is if you think about it.

@averagejoe1 said
Tell us this about living wage. Mott's example above, a divorced mother of 3. What is a living wage for her and the 3 children.
Now, having answered that, tell us what a similar person, no children, no responsibilities, same job, same age, same hair color.........tell us if she should make the same wage that the mother of 3 makes. Hint....they don't both need the same amount to live on.

You will not answer this question.

@mott-the-hoople said
“We have no real control, we never have and probably never will. ”

Absurd, you do have control.

You are headed toward that and like a sheep being lead to slaughter, you love it.

@kevcvs57 said
No you have no control precisely because you’re gullible enough to think you do.
Handling cash costs the banks a shed load of money so they will curtail and eventually phase out its use and the retail sector will fall in with it, you can already get through the self service tills quicker if you are using a card.
It will become a niche experience like driving a car with a ...[text shortened]... econd half of the century, the sooner you relax and enjoy your ride on the conveyor belt the better.

@mott-the-hoople said
facts are, you pay a surcharge and have no idea where the money goes when paying with a card.

These owners have figured a way to screw their workers if they want to. Basically it is eliminating gratuity tips.

@no1marauder said
That's ridiculous; do you seriously think servers don't get any of credit card tips?

@mott-the-hoople said
never said that (eye roll) I say paying by card gives the owner 100% control of where the tips go.

Cash tips make it easier not to pay taxes on that income

@no1marauder said
Well, I go more to bars that serve food than restaurants per se but that's not how it works in those establishments in my neck of the woods.

I almost always pay with a card; the server hands you the bill which then has a blank spot for the tip. I do know some people who usually pay cash and they tend to hand over an amount and tell the server to keep the change. ...[text shortened]... cheap in my circle not to tip at least 20%; I almost always do 25% and round up to the next dollar.