@wildgrass saidYeah ... I guess thats what allies do. Cant help you there.
Sure mate. Do it. Kill those civilians. Do it with your own bombs.
Israel spends its money to provide free health care and free college for it's citizens. Then y'all put up a stink when your ally is like "here you can have these giant bombs for free, but..... Please don't use them to kill civilians".
@wildgrass
Your view of these events is very selfish. The US and Israel have been allies since 1948, and nothing you can do to change that. The Jewish lobby in the USA is very powerful. You know what they say about people who fight with things they cannot change... they are stupid. Now I dont think you are stupid, but rather you are falling prey to the US college mentality where they see the world as a nice place where the birds are singing, people are vegans, the cows are in the pasture, and everyone is happy and contented. Well when you wake up you will realise that people are coming to destroy your lifestyle and to kill you. Your 9/11 is not over.
You should thank Israel for keeping a close watch on these maniacs. They are trying desperately to produce nuclear weapons [to destroy western countries], and Israel is the reason why they have not succeeded.
@sonhouse
Yes, I remember having a chat with you some time ago about your ham and shortwave hobbies. Its interesting stuff, and chatting and listening to people all over the world broadens your outlook, far more than watching these network news channels.
@wildgrass saidDo you think this would be going on without the provocation of Oct 7?
Where you been? They've been doing it for decades. They will continue doing it for decades. Do what you do. Kill!
Others are tired of the war mongering.
How many more billions do you need from the US taxpayers for your revenge mission?
@Rajk999
I decry the severe reduction in shortwave stations but a lot of folks around the world like in Africa still rely on short wave stations because they are not local, getting say a 50 mile range with a million watt TV station at near 1 Ghz Vs a ten thousand watt station say in Turkey or Indonesia capable of going all the way round the planet so there are a lot of folks still listening but far less than before.
@KellyJay saidYes. There's been trouble in the middle east since my parents were kids. Of course.
Do you think this would be going on without the provocation of Oct 7?
An alliance is a partnership. Unconditional and unlimited supply of weapons targeting civilians is not part of our relationship with Israel. It never has been.
@Rajk999 saidMassive pro-Palestinian demonstrations all over the world seem to contradict your opinion on no one caring.
I told you the truth already, but you dont believe it and you want to keep hearing lies. Here is the truth:
Nobody cares about Gaza
Nobody cares how many women and children die.
IDF would not tell you that because it is not politically correct to say such a truth on the media, neither is it good diplomacy to say the truth. Media and diplomatic circles are not the places ...[text shortened]... en Jews are killed
They are not innocent bystanders in this mess. They are guilty.
Dont cry now.
What you mean is that you don’t care because you hate people of one specific religion.
You schmuck.
@wildgrass saidSo going into homes and killing families is just trouble since your parents were kids this was nothing new? With or without weapons that type of activity is called for why?
Yes. There's been trouble in the middle east since my parents were kids. Of course.
An alliance is a partnership. Unconditional and unlimited supply of weapons targeting civilians is not part of our relationship with Israel. It never has been.
@shavixmir saidWrong. Those are Jew-hating demonstrations. Over the few decades or so there have been many atrocities, committed all over the world, all of which were far bigger than this Israel/Hamas conflict. There have been almost no demonstrations, and even if there were minor. Here are some :
Massive pro-Palestinian demonstrations all over the world seem to contradict your opinion on no one caring.
What you mean is that you don’t care because you hate people of one specific religion.
You schmuck.
1.5 million Armenians died in the Armenian genocide.
800,000 Tutsis died in the Rwandan genocide.
2 million Bangladeshis in the Bangladeshi genocide.
300,000 in the East Timor genocide
500,000 in the Syrian genocide.
100,000 in the Papua New Guinea genocide.
Interesting to note that 5 of those genocides were carried out by Muslim regimes.
Almost no demonstrations for the above. But Jew-haters come alive when the Jews kill people. It has nothing to do with Palestinians. Not even the surrounding Arab nations give two hoots about Gaza.
The anti-semites are having a great time organising demonstraiions.
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Biden has reached a line he hopefully will not cross:
No more arms if they go into Rafah. (the supposedly safe location refugees have been told to evacuate to)
He is still going to support the Iron Dome and other defensive programs.
It took 7 months of genocide but at least it's something
@Zahlanzi saidYou are fooling yourself. You, the US, and many more people are overestimating the importance of the US contribution to Israel, who can acquire arms, bombs from several other suppliers if they need to. Quite likely they dont need to. Im sure they can deal with Rafah with their current arsenal of weapons. Netanyahu said there is no way the war is going to remain unfinished because of the US. Hamas is holed up in Rafah and they are going to bomb everything in there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZUH9ty9L8w&ab_channel=TheMajorityReportw%2FSamSeder
Biden has reached a line he hopefully will not cross:
No more arms if they go into Rafah. (the supposedly safe location refugees have been told to evacuate to)
He is still going to support the Iron Dome and other defensive programs.
It took 7 months of genocide but at least it's something
@KellyJay saidYou seem to have a very specific beef with the "going into people's homes" bit. Why does it matter if they're coming through the front door or the roof?
So going into homes and killing families is just trouble since your parents were kids this was nothing new? With or without weapons that type of activity is called for why?
Just what comes to mind, the 6 day war in 1967? Hundreds of prisoners mass slaughter stuff. In 1982 Reagan halted arms shipments to Israel for basically the same reason i.e. they were dropping bombs everywhere in Lebanon hoping one of them might hit a terrorist.
Maybe just mayne a few thousand more dead civilians is going to change things in the middle east after , what, 80 years of indiscriminate killing? Is that what you're saying?
War mongering.
@wildgrass saidWhen war is being fought there is always casualties with non-combatants. Those that fight if they care about that do what they can to avoid when possible, it isn’t always possible.
You seem to have a very specific beef with the "going into people's homes" bit. Why does it matter if they're coming through the front door or the roof?
Just what comes to mind, the 6 day war in 1967? Hundreds of prisoners mass slaughter stuff. In 1982 Reagan halted arms shipments to Israel for basically the same reason i.e. they were dropping bombs everywhere in Lebanon ...[text shortened]... ast after , what, 80 years of indiscriminate killing? Is that what you're saying?
War mongering.
Hamas with calculated intentions built their bases inside populated areas to keep them shielded by using innocents. There is zero concern bringing conflict into civilian areas it is a goal. They purposely attacked civilians in their homes to inflict casualties and terror in the population, even taking hostages.
So these are genocide murderers desire the death of both Gaza s people and Israeli their death serve their purpose.
Going into a homes shows nothing but contempt for all humanity, the way the war is being waged shows which side is forcing citizens deaths.
@KellyJay saidWhy does it matter if the killers come in through the front door or the roof?
When war is being fought there is always casualties with non-combatants. Those that fight if they care about that do what they can to avoid when possible, it isn’t always possible.
Hamas with calculated intentions built their bases inside populated areas to keep them shielded by using innocents. There is zero concern bringing conflict into civilian areas it is a goal. ...[text shortened]... ntempt for all humanity, the way the war is being waged shows which side is forcing citizens deaths.
Bombing civilians area makes bad situations worse. This is a never ending conflict. One of the misconceptions here is that the civilian deaths are having an effect at all on Hamas. I am not a military strategist, but it seems they are not. Pointless killing in revenge for pointless killing.
@wildgrass saidGoing after people have made it their life mission to kill you is not war-mongering.
War mongering.