1 edit
@Cliff-Mashburn saidI know it means nothing when you are not in the way of what is accelerating. The car only picks up speed AFTER Ross starts shooting.
You know what acceleration means, right?
@no1marauder saidVideo footage shows that the officer was in fact struck by the vehicle. The court will find that the woman was guilty of dangerous driving, and that the officer responded appropriately. The end result, death, is unfortunate. Using the word execution just shows your bias and therefore unable to speak objectively.
Rajk: She proceeded to drive right into one of the officers
An obvious lie as anyone who has watched the videos knows. Not obeying questionably legal commands from law enforcement agents is not a justification for execution in this country.
@no1marauder saidlying again
I know it means nothing when you are not in the way of what is accelerating. The car only picks up speed AFTER Ross starts shooting.
@Rajk999 saidA court, if it ever gets to one, would have to apply this standard to the agent's actions:
Video footage shows that the officer was in fact struck by the vehicle. The court will find that the woman was guilty of dangerous driving, and that the officer responded appropriately. The end result, death, is unfortunate. Using the word execution just shows your bias and therefore unable to speak objectively.
"Deadly force can only be used when the officer has a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm to himself or others."
No logical argument has been made here that a slow moving car that he easily moved out of the way of creates a "reasonable fear of imminent death or serious physical injury". Instead, you and others try to do a lot of victim blaming by raising points irrelevant to the legal standard given.
@Rajk999 saidHe said ‘execution” ?!? Must have missed it on the speed read, vacillating between him and Stillhouse.
Video footage shows that the officer was in fact struck by the vehicle. The court will find that the woman was guilty of dangerous driving, and that the officer responded appropriately. The end result, death, is unfortunate. Using the word execution just shows your bias and therefore unable to speak objectively.
@no1marauder saidShould not have killed her. Who cares about raving white female paid lunatics? They mean nothing, they do nothing, they accomplish nothing. Why do the gun deal? Leave her to rave at the next outing.
A court, if it ever gets to one, would have to apply this standard to the agent's actions:
"Deadly force can only be used when the officer has a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm to himself or others."
No logical argument has been made here that a slow moving car that he easily moved out of the way of creates a "reasonable fear of imminent dea ...[text shortened]... d others try to do a lot of victim blaming by raising points irrelevant to the legal standard given.
Me,I let ICE do their job, rounding up herds of illegals, while I read my book.
@Rajk999 said"Video footage shows that the officer was in fact struck by the vehicle"
Video footage shows that the officer was in fact struck by the vehicle. The court will find that the woman was guilty of dangerous driving, and that the officer responded appropriately. The end result, death, is unfortunate. Using the word execution just shows your bias and therefore unable to speak objectively.
That is a lie. I saw the video several times. She avoided hitting him. He was not struck by the vehicle. Stop lying.
@no1marauder said“Subd. 2.Use of deadly force. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 609.06 or 609.065, the use of deadly force by a peace officer in the line of duty is justified only when necessary:
A court, if it ever gets to one, would have to apply this standard to the agent's actions:
"Deadly force can only be used when the officer has a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm to himself or others."
No logical argument has been made here that a slow moving car that he easily moved out of the way of creates a "reasonable fear of imminent dea ...[text shortened]... d others try to do a lot of victim blaming by raising points irrelevant to the legal standard given.
(1) to protect the peace officer or another from apparent death or great bodily harm;
(2) to effect the arrest or capture, or prevent the escape, of a person whom the peace officer knows or has reasonable grounds to believe has committed or attempted to commit a felony involving the use or threatened use of deadly force; or
(3) to effect the arrest or capture, or prevent the escape, of a person whom the officer knows or has reasonable grounds to believe has committed or attempted to commit a felony if the officer reasonably believes that the person will cause death or great bodily harm if the person's apprehension is delayed”
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/2019/cite/609.066
3 edits
@wildgrass said
Your own brain is lying to you if you think kirks death was celebrated.
Here's 20 mins of you lot celebrating Charlie Kirks death. You lot REALLY DON'T ENGAGE YOUR BRAIN before you post, huh?
The celebrations start at 5;33
1;25m
@no1marauder said
Hard to hit someone who's standing on the left side of a car making a right turn.
Here's another view
@DJJ saidBased on that it looks like her left fender clipped his hand with the cell phone and knocked it out of his hand though he doesn't seem to be personally hurt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpcCQTGfPLo
Here's another view
We should be careful - there's a lot of AI based deepfake stuff being spammed by Russia to try to get those of us in the West to fight amongst ourselves. Some of the evidence we see may not be trustworthy.
@AThousandYoung saidThe guy was previously dragged down the street by someone driving off after refusing to comply. I don't blame him one bit for firing his weapon.
Based on that it looks like her left fender clipped his hand with the cell phone and knocked it out of his hand though he doesn't seem to be personally hurt.
We should be careful - there's a lot of AI based deepfake stuff being spammed by Russia to try to get those of us in the West to fight amongst ourselves. Some of the evidence we see may not be trustworthy.
[youtube Ryan MacBeth disinformation]x_crFFBfnJo[/youtube]
@Mott-The-Hoople saidMissed this part:
“Subd. 2.Use of deadly force. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 609.06 or 609.065, the use of deadly force by a peace officer in the line of duty is justified only when necessary:
(1) to protect the peace officer or another from apparent death or great bodily harm;
(2) to effect the arrest or capture, or prevent the escape, of a person whom the peace officer ...[text shortened]... rm if the person's apprehension is delayed”
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/2019/cite/609.066
For the purposes of this section, "deadly force" means force which the actor uses with the purpose of causing, or which the actor should reasonably know creates a substantial risk of causing, death or great bodily harm.
There was no "substantial risk of death or great bodily harm" caused by this slow moving vehicle.
@DJJ saidSo people are allowed to be overly sensitive and kill on a whim because of a bad experience?
The guy was previously dragged down the street by someone driving off after refusing to comply. I don't blame him one bit for firing his weapon.
She dropped off her 6 year old son to school right before she was killed. Would you tell her son she had it coming because of what someone else did to him?