Originally posted by generalissimoYea he is pretty good too. Heck your not bad yourself in my view. Take a closer look though and see what Whodey means by statist.
I think the constitution of the united states is great, and a good model, an example of democracy and liberty. However, I wouldn't say the founding fathers were great role models, they were after all, a bunch of hypocrites.
I think you're the only one who thinks whodey is the "most respectable guy that posts here". I think that title should be given to sh76.
Originally posted by joe beyserPosting on a Debates thread is a lie, in and of itself, regardless what of the post says??
Well FMF you lied once again. You said you didn't care about the US health care system but yet you "chime in" once again.
Good grief.
Anyway. My question was: Is it true for Palin is claim - as she does, about Obama's proposed health system - that her parents or her baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so that his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society'?
In other words, are your former VP candidate's claims true?
Originally posted by FMFThen why are you posting on it?
Posting on a Debates thread is a lie, in and of itself, regardless what of the post says??
Good grief.
Anyway. My question was: Is it true for Palin is claim - as she does, about Obama's proposed health system - that her parents or her baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so that his bureaucrats can decide, based on ...[text shortened]... productivity in society'?
In other words, are your former VP candidate's claims true?
It's probably true.
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Originally posted by daniel58I posted because I am curious as to whether these claims by Palin true or false.
Then why are you posting on it?
I am also struck by how she has referred to the Obama health plan as "downright evil". If is is, I ask, by what definition of "evil" would that be so?
Originally posted by FMFMaybe just maybe it's will support abortion, birth control, not giving health care to old people... etc. etc.
I posted because I am curious as to whether these claims by Palin true or false.
I am also struck by how she has referred to the Obama health plan as "downright evil". If is is, I ask, by what definition of "evil" would that be so?
Originally posted by daniel58What's wrong with supporting birth control?
Maybe just maybe it's will support abortion, birth control, not giving health care to old people... etc. etc.
It also doesn't support not giving healthcare to old people. Do you have anything to back up that claim?
Originally posted by daniel58You think this claim of death panels is true ? That's very strange as on this very thread both USarmyparatrooper and me have taken a random claim about this new bill and debunked it without any problem. Despite that, you think this claim about "death panels", which ranks quite a bit higher on the "you'd have to be pretty insane to come up with this" scale is probably true ?
Then why are you posting on it?
It's probably true.
Originally posted by BartsDon't exactly what "death panels" is. If you are talking about the health care plan being in favor of those things I mentioned above then yes, just because you don't think it's true doesn't mean it isn't, you guys don't know all the things behind the scenes, I know "you'd have to be pretty insane to come up with this" but don't but it pass them.
You think this claim of death panels is true ? That's very strange as on this very thread both USarmyparatrooper and me have taken a random claim about this new bill and debunked it without any problem. Despite that, you think this claim about "death panels", which ranks quite a bit higher on the "you'd have to be pretty insane to come up with this" scale is probably true ?
Originally posted by daniel58You're saying that we don't know all the things behind the scenes. Do you know anything that's going on behind the scenes???
Don't exactly what "death panels" is. If you are talking about the health care plan being in favor of those things I mentioned above then yes, just because you don't think it's true doesn't mean it isn't, you guys don't know all the things behind the scenes, I know "you'd have to be pretty insane to come up with this" but don't but it pass them.
Originally posted by PsychoPawnIt isn't? Then what is it?
Birth control isn't murder. That's idiotic.
What? Obama's health plan isn't in law so how could it be responsible for anything yet?
I'm saying that's what happened, and it will happen even more if that law does come into effect.
Originally posted by Sam The ShamThe bill does not force anybody to get on board. It's an option that people can choose to participate in. It's offering the public the same health care plan the Congress uses, and it's the individual's choice whether or not they want to participate.
How's the health care bill going to affect veterans who have the VA and don't need it?
We have tens of millions of Americans who don't have health coverage. Obama and the Democrats in Congress are trying to take care of them. And as a thanks for Obama's efforts his political opponents smear him and tell lie after lie after lie about their proposal.