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    08 Aug '09 19:57
    Originally posted by daniel58
    Okay how about I put you in a jail cell with no food and water, then after 20 years I'll come back, I didn't actually "kill" you but I did prevent you from living.

    I messaged him and will get back to you on that one.
    Okay how about I put you in a jail cell with no food and water, then after 20 years I'll come back, I didn't actually "kill" you but I did prevent you from living.

    Really? So if I wear a condom during sex you think that's equivalent to putting someone in a jail cell with no food and water for 20 years? Are you seriously suggesting that's even close to being the same thing?

    I messaged him and will get back to you on that one.

    There's a good start. I'll look forward to seeing what happened during this supposed incident and how it is linked to legislation that hasn't been passed yet.
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    08 Aug '09 20:00
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    I think he's confusing abortion with birth control. Not that I agree that abortion is murder, but again, he's confused.

    Now there is ONE form of birth control that the pro-lifers can put in the same catagory as abortion and that's the morning after pill, which (can) terminate a pregnancy a day or two after fertilization of the egg.

    But in t ...[text shortened]... ncy to begin with.

    I would like to see where in the Bible it says birth control is a sin.
    I agree with you. Of course, if preventing a pregnancy from happening is somehow equivalent to murder then that's a pretty scary though.
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    08 Aug '09 20:03
    Originally posted by daniel58
    Okay how about I put you in a jail cell with no food and water, then after 20 years I'll come back, I didn't actually "kill" you but I did prevent you from living.

    I messaged him and will get back to you on that one.
    A nonsense response. The person who you put in jail was alive to begin with.

    Using a chess reference, everytime you... "develop your bishop" you're preventing millions of potential lives from taking place.
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    08 Aug '09 20:07
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    A nonsense response. The person who you put in jail was alive to begin with.

    Using a chess reference, everytime you... "develop your bishop" you're preventing millions of potential lives from taking place.
    We actually don't know EXACTLY when life begins so that's irrelevant.

    I don't get what you're saying.
  5. Germany
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    08 Aug '09 20:09
    Originally posted by daniel58
    NEVER!!!
    So what about all the children who were never born because rape is illegal?
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    08 Aug '09 20:11
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    So what about all the children who were never born because rape is illegal?
    But that doesn't mean that those children get aborted though.
  7. Germany
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    08 Aug '09 20:12
    Originally posted by daniel58
    But that doesn't mean that those children get aborted though.
    I'm missing your point... so why are you against birth control?
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    08 Aug '09 20:15
    Originally posted by daniel58
    We actually don't know EXACTLY when life begins so that's irrelevant.

    I don't get what you're saying.
    Who's "we" ?
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    08 Aug '09 20:161 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    I'm missing your point... so why are you against birth control?
    Because it prevents children from living, which is wrong.
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    08 Aug '09 20:351 edit
    Originally posted by daniel58
    Because it prevents children from living, which is wrong.
    OK, let me break this down for you dummy style.

    If you wear a condom (birth control) you prevent the semen from entering the woman's vigina. Murder?

    If you abstain from having sex you prevent the semen from entering the woman's vigina. Murder?
  11. Germany
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    08 Aug '09 20:491 edit
    Originally posted by daniel58
    Because it prevents children from living, which is wrong.
    So does banning rape, and abstinence as USparatrooper points out.
  12. Pepperland
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    09 Aug '09 14:30
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    c'mon, 8000 years ago our gggg'greats were running around in hides like Osti the Iceman. context!
    so because of the context they get away scot-free?

    you're not really fighting for liberty and the pursuit of happiness and all the other ideals if you're going to have double-standards.
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    09 Aug '09 14:41
    The founding fathers clearly drew a constitution that was ahead of its time.

    However, not by 200 years.
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    09 Aug '09 15:21
    Originally posted by daniel58
    It says murder is sin.
    irrelevant.
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