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@great-king-rat saidJust Lol so it’s ok if there’s a middle aged white paedo grooming a vulnerable young girl for our entertainment but not ‘cuties’ er ok.
My opinion, yes.
Lolita balances on the line of inappropriate, Cuties crosses it.
Have YOU seen Cuties?
@athousandyoung saidTypical.
No.
So you're comfortable with a child actress pretending to rub an adult man's groin with her hands and feet while saying "you like that? you want more?" but not comfortable with the Cuties dancing. It must be pretty raunchy.
From where did you get I was “comfortable” with it?
@kevcvs57 saidI don’t know what hi caps are.
You need to calm down if you cannot make your point without chucking hi caps at people then why bother.
You do not have to watch the film to get the gist of what the controversy is.
I googled it and I’ve read this thread.
Did the actors look uncomfortable to you, do you think that they haven’t made those moves with their friends in real life during a sleep over umpteen ti ...[text shortened]... evangelical chest thumping. I’m not going to watch the film, because I don’t need to watch the film.
“Young children are being sexualised by the marketing and entertainment industry wether your comfortable with it or not.“
What is the point of this? Should I be okay with it just because it happens? What are you saying here?
What children do “with their friends” should not always be put on film. Again, the point you’re making here eludes me. In their journey to discover themselves and each other children do in fact do things that no reasonable human being should want to record and use in a movie.
So you are saying this movie does something that crosses a line (“sexualisation of children&rdquo😉 and you will therefore boycott it? Good then, it seems we are in agreement.
@kevcvs57 saidLots of things in this world exist in a gray area. Human beings aren’t always logical, we are not robots.
Just Lol so it’s ok if there’s a middle aged white paedo grooming a vulnerable young girl for our entertainment but not ‘cuties’ er ok.
Yes, one thing might just be on one side of the line while the other crosses the line. Sue me for not adhering entirely to what you deem correct and incorrect.
@great-king-rat saidA wildly inappropriate smiley has appeared, but I’m going to keep it in for comedic value.
I don’t know what hi caps are.
“Young children are being sexualised by the marketing and entertainment industry wether your comfortable with it or not.“
What is the point of this? Should I be okay with it just because it happens? What are you saying here?
What children do “with their friends” should not always be put on film. Again, the point you’re making her ...[text shortened]... ualisation of children&rdquo😉 and you will therefore boycott it? Good then, it seems we are in agreement.
@athousandyoung saidI am saying, do not play-act the shooting of someone, actually DO it. Shoot and kill
"For real"? What are you implying with that?
someone to show why it is wrong to shoot and kill someone.
@great-king-rat saidDepends on context.
Shav: Context matters!!
Also Shav: here’s a random video which in no way resembles the scenes in Cuties. Is it Porn??
Of course, Shav also made the preposterous comparison between Cuties and Stranger Things, so Shav has no fvcking clue what he’s talking about.
Maybe you should actually watch Cuties before commenting? Just an idea.
Question to all: if the girls in Cuties were dancing bare breasted, would that have made a difference?
@athousandyoung saidYou most definitely can by establishing intent. Also "vague"?? again, that is why I use the term Guise. In the case of "manslaughter" even though there is no intent, someone dies and you can go to jail, this is in the event of the possibility of the "accident" being used as an "out", so in this case why does intent even "need" to be established, even though ( as I claimed ) to be "porn" there does need to be intent. That way the "guise" or "pretense" can not be used as a defense. Ok so as in pretend murder, manslaughter, pretend porn. both subject to penalties.
I have some idea what you are trying to say but you can't legislate based on such vague ideas.
@kevcvs57 saidThe less uncomfortable that they look, the more problematic it is, surely thats not hard to understand, and no, I doubt they would have had sleepovers and made these moves umpteen time, absolutely not, except, I might add, in the context of having been taught by the producers, or choreographers.
Did the actors look uncomfortable to you, do you think that they haven’t made those moves with their friends in real life during a sleep over umpteen times.
These kids are being primed to be sexual targets before their time. They are being taught, and no matter the explanations that they get about it, words do not mean as much as actions.
@earl-of-trumps saidAnd why is that ridiculous scenario relevant?
I am saying, do not play-act the shooting of someone, actually DO it. Shoot and kill
someone to show why it is wrong to shoot and kill someone.
@shavixmir saidThe context is the movie Cuties. There is no need for further context.
Depends on context.
Unless you don’t want to answer it of course, then you’ll just need “more context”.
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Let's see what I can do to better shed some light on my PoV here...
Some countries banned Nabokov's novel, Lolita. This is understandable.
But let us keep in mind, Lolita is a novel, not reality. There are no real players here.
Now, if you made a PLAY called Lolita, that actually had a young teen play
out a sexual relationship ON STAGE every day, this would be high crime.
Do you people see the difference here?
Like I have said, get young looking 19 y/o women to play the parts of the young
female dancers and you are all set here. No complaints with us conservatives, MO.
Yes it transforms the movie from erotic art to documentary, but tough. Live with it.
And if you cannot live with it, I fear that for you, it is the erotic young ones that have interested you all along.
@earl-of-trumps saidI still would but I would accept that it was my just "my" opinion and bad luck for me.
Like I have said, get young looking 19 y/o women to play the parts of the young
female dancers and you are all set here. No complaints with us conservatives, MO.