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Is the Russia mutiny an excuse for nuclear war?

Is the Russia mutiny an excuse for nuclear war?

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It looks like Russia may be preparing to blame the USA for the mutiny.

https://english.alarabiya.net/amp/News/world/2023/06/26/Russia-investigating-if-Western-spy-agencies-were-involved-in-Wagner-mutiny-Lavrov

Is that because the Russian conventional military is too weak to continue for long and they are being forced to use nuclear weapons in desperation?

Russia has said it would only use nuclear weapons in response to an existential threat. A USA orchestrated coup would meet that criteria.
Should we be preparing for nuclear war?

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No.

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@AThousandYoung
Oh, you really are the master of debates. No is so devastating. MORON!

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@metal-brain said
@AThousandYoung
Oh, you really are the master of debates. No is so devastating. MORON!
No is the answer to your "stupid question of the day".

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Nope.

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@shavixmir
If no then it must have been an extortion scam.
Well played Yevgeny Prigozhin.

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@metal-brain said
It looks like Russia may be preparing to blame the USA for the mutiny.

https://english.alarabiya.net/amp/News/world/2023/06/26/Russia-investigating-if-Western-spy-agencies-were-involved-in-Wagner-mutiny-Lavrov

Is that because the Russian conventional military is too weak to continue for long and they are being forced to use nuclear weapons in desperation?

Russia ...[text shortened]... l threat. A USA orchestrated coup would meet that criteria.
Should we be preparing for nuclear war?
Why would they need an excuse for nuclear war?
Do you think their mummy will tell them off if they don’t have a good enough excuse.
The only reason for nuclear war is retaliation for an enemy nuclear strike or a conventional threat to your own physical survival.
Neither of which apply to Russia and heaven knows how an internal rebellion could be dressed up as an excuse for nuclear war.
The BS coming from liar in chief Lavrov is just another attempt to shore up a corrupt and rapidly crumbling regime in the Kremlin. Putin’s response has been farcical in his pretence of control.

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@kevcvs57
I already explained why. Can't you read properly?

"Lavrov is just another attempt to shore up a corrupt and rapidly crumbling regime in the Kremlin"

You answered your own question moron. Any regime that has nukes and is crumbling is going to use nukes in desperation. The only alternative is to let the regime crumble. How likely do you think Putin will let that happen without a fight?

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@metal-brain said
@kevcvs57
I already explained why. Can't you read properly?

"Lavrov is just another attempt to shore up a corrupt and rapidly crumbling regime in the Kremlin"

You answered your own question moron. Any regime that has nukes and is crumbling is going to use nukes in desperation. The only alternative is to let the regime crumble. How likely do you think Putin will let that happen without a fight?
Hey halfwit how does getting yourself nuked into extinction shore up your crumbling regime, are all Russians this stupid?
I’ve told you before you moron Putin will fall down the big stairs before the Russian elites allow him to kill their children and destroy all their power and wealth.
Try thinking for yourself.

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@kevcvs57 said
Hey halfwit how does getting yourself nuked into extinction shore up your crumbling regime, are all Russians this stupid?
I’ve told you before you moron Putin will fall down the big stairs before the Russian elites allow him to kill their children and destroy all their power and wealth.
Try thinking for yourself.
"Try thinking for yourself."
he has a pathological need to always go for the most complicated and conspiratorial explanation

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@metal-brain said
@shavixmir
If no then it must have been an extortion scam.
Well played Yevgeny Prigozhin.
That is in no way a logical conclusion.

If it isn’t an excuse for nuclear war, it must have been a scam.

Grow up.

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@shavixmir

Kim Iversen seems to think so.

https://rumble.com/v2wjtl6-june-26-2023.html

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@kevcvs57 said
Hey halfwit how does getting yourself nuked into extinction shore up your crumbling regime, are all Russians this stupid?
I’ve told you before you moron Putin will fall down the big stairs before the Russian elites allow him to kill their children and destroy all their power and wealth.
Try thinking for yourself.
So you are saying Russia built all those nuclear weapons for nothing.
If there were enough nuclear weapons to cause extinction (as you call it) Russia would not have wasted money building more of them. Or are you claiming that both sides stopped at just the right amount to cause (MAD) mutually assured destruction?

Let's call it Goldilocks MAD. Both sides got it just right.
Make a case for your Goldilocks MAD theory.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/10/us/politics/trump-budget-nuclear-missiles.html

Does Biden finally have it just right? Or is he still trying to reach the Goldilocks zone?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/02/biden-trump-nuclear-weapons-491631

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@metal-brain said
So you are saying Russia built all those nuclear weapons for nothing.
If there were enough nuclear weapons to cause extinction (as you call it) Russia would not have wasted money building more of them. Or are you claiming that both sides stopped at just the right amount to cause (MAD) mutually assured destruction?

Let's call it Goldilocks MAD. Both sides got it just ...[text shortened]... the Goldilocks zone?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/02/biden-trump-nuclear-weapons-491631
They built them as a threat to non nuclear powers and a deterrent to fellow nuclear powers, once you use they have lost any perceived advantage they afforded you.
Who exactly do you think Russia is going to nuke?
Both sides have gone way beyond the ‘MAD’ point years and years ago. Are you still nursing the fantasy that Russia could nuke the west and still exist, I’ll ask again are all Russians this stupid, it’s a rhetorical question, of course they are not

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@kevcvs57 said
They built them as a threat to non nuclear powers and a deterrent to fellow nuclear powers, once you use they have lost any perceived advantage they afforded you.
Who exactly do you think Russia is going to nuke?
Both sides have gone way beyond the ‘MAD’ point years and years ago. Are you still nursing the fantasy that Russia could nuke the west and still exist, I’ll ask again are all Russians this stupid, it’s a rhetorical question, of course they are not
"Both sides have gone way beyond the ‘MAD’ point years and years ago."

Then why is your hero Biden still building more? He obviously does not agree with you. Russia will nuke the west because of a first strike advantage. The have hypersonic missiles so they can take out foreign nukes before they can be launched.

The Russians do not believe in MAD because they are not gullible and stupid like you are. MAD was always misinformation spread by the anti nuclear movement. Neither Russia nor the USA is that stupid. Why do you think they are both building more nukes?

The only people that believe in MAD are mad people like you. You might want to resist believing ridiculous rumors. MAD is a myth.

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