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@AThousandYoung said
Nonsense.
The Ottoman Empire ran for over 600 years and ended in 1918. They started a land registry late in 1800, but the aim was to recruit people for an army and to tax residents, so people did not bother registering land and obtaiing title deeds. There was therefore no reliable register of land ownership.


@AverageJoe1 said
Yes, he was in the entertainment business. Whatever that has to do with anything it’s a business. To make a lot of money that’s why you do business. You lost me on that one. That doesn’t not make him a lesser man to decide to go into the entertainment business. I might mention that a man in the entertainment business became president of the United States. So yeah, I do no ...[text shortened]... am. Rachel Maddow is a total liberal. So I still did not get what in the hell you’re talking about.
Jebesus, the entire Fox network news is BIASED and will NEVER say anything unfavorable about Trump with the exception of the latest polls showing Trump the lowest rating of any president in US history at this time in their office.
Trump would NEVER get unbiased advice from ANY of those imposters on Fox.
They ALWAYS have an agenda.
But of course you are too dense to see any of that.
Fox talking heads don't have agents on the ground say in Syria to see what is happening up close and personal just as an example so THEY know what is going on in the world. Trump listens to those imitations of news reporters because he is so STUPID he can't pick up on the fact they are BULLSHHIITTING him to get what THEY want.
But HEY, believe what you want. Trump is your new religion anyway.

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@AverageJoe1 said
hahaha. I watch MSNBC for fun sometimes, today one of the hosts said that the 'public' of the USA should have a say about decisions on whether to take action against Iran. ooohhh, sonhouse........ Jesus. Let's ask Maddow's audience for their concerted opinion. Maybe have a bit of military experience, like the National Guard!!!!!
And they showed a video of Stev ...[text shortened]... and Hillary. Creepy stuff.
I recommend everyone view MSNBC on occasion. You talk about angst!!!
You mean if 90% of Americans are against a war Trump should just ignore them.
Got it.

Funny, I would have sworn we lived in a democracy. But that is past tense now.
We live in Trump as effective king where HE says who is a crim and has his own secret police to back him up, Anyone with brown skin is a suspected criminal and can be kidnapped and put in a prison with not a HINT of a judge pronouncing them guilty. Maybe you remember when there were supposed to be THREE independent branches of government, remember the INDEPENDENT part?
Now Trump OWNS congress, and most of Judicial.

But MOST of judicial is not enough for Trump. He wants to TOTALLY own ALL three branches and it is only some judges defying him.
But of course you WANT Trump to own all three branches of government.
Let me see, what do we call that?
Wait wait, don't tell me, it will come to me in a moment. Have to think about that.

OH YEAH, I remember now. DICTATORSHIP. That is what they call it when a so called strong man, which Trump is NOT, just takes over the government and what he says goes. Hector Jimenez is a criminal Trump says, so the ICE man cometh and taketh Hector away, no judge making that call so into a cage he goes. And BTW, CONGRESS has the LAW GIVEN RIGHT to inspect those so called detention centers but are turned away from SITTING CONGRESSMEN who has oversight LEGALLY over those ICE prisons.

And OF COURSE ALL OF THE ABOVE is perfectly fine with you because Trump is your literal LORD.


@AverageJoe1 said
hahaha. I watch MSNBC for fun sometimes, today one of the hosts said that the 'public' of the USA should have a say about decisions on whether to take action against Iran. ooohhh, sonhouse........ Jesus. Let's ask Maddow's audience for their concerted opinion. Maybe have a bit of military experience, like the National Guard!!!!!
And they showed a video of Stev ...[text shortened]... and Hillary. Creepy stuff.
I recommend everyone view MSNBC on occasion. You talk about angst!!!
Whatever. You are a pathetic imitation of a real human being with ZERO empathy for anyone but whitey.

All your talk about Rachel then you go into whataboutisms, LOOK AT BIDEN, he is a COMMUNIST.

You can't recognize talent and genius if it slapped you in the face.
Biden was working TIRELESSLY for the PEOPLE.

Tell me. who is Trump working for? It is NOT you or me or anyone else in the country. Trump works for TRUMP and TRUMP alone.

And you are so blind you can't even ACKNOWLEDGE the POSSIBILITY of corruption right out in the open where a POTUS is not supposed to make money off the fact he is POTUS but Trump goes SCREW emoluments, I will make money anyway I choose, bit coins, gold colored shoes for sale, trading cards, watches, guitars, ALL those sales coming directly to Trumps bank accounts.
You go, WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?


@sonhouse said
Jebesus, the entire Fox network news is BIASED and will NEVER say anything unfavorable about Trump with the exception of the latest polls showing Trump the lowest rating of any president in US history at this time in their office.
Trump would NEVER get unbiased advice from ANY of those imposters on Fox.
They ALWAYS have an agenda.
But of course you are too dense to see an ...[text shortened]... TTING him to get what THEY want.
But HEY, believe what you want. Trump is your new religion anyway.
You r right about Fox bias of course just like MSNBC bias. That is no new story. But I thought you said that he takes advice from the people fox people, and now in this post you say Trump would never get unbiased advice, or something, whatever that means.?!?
How in the world do you know that fox has no agents on the ground? You’re killing me with your opinions.
Trump stupid? Geez

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@sonhouse said
You mean if 90% of Americans are against a war Trump should just ignore them.
Got it.

Funny, I would have sworn we lived in a democracy. But that is past tense now.
We live in Trump as effective king where HE says who is a crim and has his own secret police to back him up, Anyone with brown skin is a suspected criminal and can be kidnapped and put in a prison with not a ...[text shortened]... ns.

And OF COURSE ALL OF THE ABOVE is perfectly fine with you because Trump is your literal LORD.
Tiresome posting. You say I am not reading your personal opinions, as you chide our president for following the law to get rid of invaders. Prob is, you hate Trump, and you love invaders...it is all about YOU and what you think. zzzzzzzzz
I love Trump and,.... follow me here...I hate invaders. Do you really \want to spar about this. Like you spar that boys should undress with girls in girls' bathrooms?? Do you? You want me to agree that Tom Homan should not send the invaders home? Do you ever write the word 'illegal'?? zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

This article is that only 95 alien illegals crossed in the last 24 hours....It USED to be 8000 daily under your GOD Biden!!!! zzzzzzzzz
How can you be right about your positions when a court just told Trump he will be allowed to do the military thing in LA!?!?!?!?!? I have to either agree with Sonhouse ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
😆 😆 😆 , or I have to be a red blooded American who wants to agree with the court that these people need to go home. All that are here illegally, the ones who chose to take a chance to come here. Too bad. Go home.
PS: We live in a Republic. We do not live in a Democracy, you mixed up Chiuahua!!!!!!

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5357797-trump-administration-seeing-record-low-border-encounters-homan/


@sonhouse said
Whatever. You are a pathetic imitation of a real human being with ZERO empathy for anyone but whitey.

All your talk about Rachel then you go into whataboutisms, LOOK AT BIDEN, he is a COMMUNIST.

You can't recognize talent and genius if it slapped you in the face.
Biden was working TIRELESSLY for the PEOPLE.

Tell me. who is Trump working for? It is NOT you or me or ...[text shortened]... hes, guitars, ALL those sales coming directly to Trumps bank accounts.
You go, WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?
? He is a businessman. His sons seem to be running all his enterprises. You hate that his name is valuable. Is the Biden name valuable? Why not? Why Trump but not Biden.?


@sonhouse said
You mean if 90% of Americans are against a war Trump should just ignore them.
Got it.

Funny, I would have sworn we lived in a democracy. But that is past tense now.
We live in Trump as effective king where HE says who is a crim and has his own secret police to back him up, Anyone with brown skin is a suspected criminal and can be kidnapped and put in a prison with not a ...[text shortened]... ns.

And OF COURSE ALL OF THE ABOVE is perfectly fine with you because Trump is your literal LORD.
My my… Sonhouse says that 90% of Americans are against a war.
No, Sunhouse, I would submit that 100% of Americans are against the war. All Americans do not want War. What in the hell are you talking about? And just to clarify your idiocy, Trump is not saying we’re going to have a war. Actually, he says that after Israel takes out about 90% of Iran, that only then maybe he might chip in. What he is saying, Sunhouse, which you seem to have missed, is that he is going to eliminate their nuclear capability. All Americans do want him to eliminate the nuclear capability of Iran. Even Suzanne would like for him to eliminate the capability of a nuclear Iran. Maybe she will write back and disagree with me, I would not be surprised.
This is an example of the pitiful posts that you keep putting out that go off into oblivion with no basis, no foundation. The funny thing , as you say funny in your post here, is that you think that we are going to read your crap and place any type of credence to your crap.


@AverageJoe1
Sun house is in effect mixing up war with the elimination of nuclear capability. Those are two separate things. So why don’t you write on and on about War.


@AverageJoe1 said
You r right about Fox bias of course just like MSNBC bias. That is no new story. But I thought you said that he takes advice from the people fox people, and now in this post you say Trump would never get unbiased advice, or something, whatever that means.?!?
How in the world do you know that fox has no agents on the ground? You’re killing me with your opinions.
Trump stupid? Geez
RIGHT. Fox news having agents on the ground in Iran, or Syria or China or Russia.
Are you that stupid you could actually believe that? Fox is an ENTERTAINMENT network and they could give a rats ass what is going on in other countries.

You want unbiased news? Here is one I am quite sure you are too scared to even CONSIDER looking at it.
John Stewart has a deal, 40% off if you go to this news outlet:

Groundnews.com/stewart.

This site gives news reports and then takes apart the report and do fact checking and bias checking so you can tell what is going on.

With the 40% off from John Stewart it is 5 bucks a month.

For instance, the Israeli attacks, if there is regime change, history has shown regime change leads to worse outcomes later.

And sucking Trump into using the bunker buster bombs, there is no certainty even THOSE bombs will work to eliminate the nuclear refining buried there.
But Trump has one agenda: If Obama started it, Trump wants it dead.
So Obama got a real nuclear deal with Iran WHICH WAS WORKING.

Until Trump V1.
Trump didn't even listen to his own intel advisors, where Trump says Iran is not complying with the agreement. But they WERE compliant so Trump goes SCREW the Obama agreement.

So here we are ten years later, Trump says you get 60 days for an agreement on one hand, and on the other hand Trump goes We want TOTAL surrender.
What the HELL are the Iranians supposed to think about all that?
And BTW Iran had sent negotiators to meet with Trump's team last Sunday but Israel blew that apart attacking Iran.

Now we find out Iran has very advanced ballistic missiles that penetrate the Israeli defenses, missiles that come in at Mach FIFTEEN. That is a missile that hits the ground doing nearly TWELVE THOUSAND MILES AN HOUR.

The former defense of Israel could kill over 90% of the older generation of missiles but now like 65% kills so over a third of those missiles are getting through and killing civilians in Tel Aviv, and BTW, I am in communications with some dear friends in Tel Aviv and they said today is the first day they have had quiet, the last week has been horrific.

So Israel, knowing Trump is a puppet, they start bombing and now Trump goes, we will make a decision in 2 weeks but Trump has said that a half dozen times just in Trump V2 in the last few months.

Two weeks will go by, and some NEW Trump created crisis will come up where Trump hopes, maybe the Iran war deal will be back page headlines, due 100% to the total INCOMPETENCE of Trump because he is NOT a genius, he is WAY over his head and refuses to even talk to his own intel folks instead listening to talking heads.

THAT is incompetence full blown.
So the gist of all that is even if the buster bomb works Iran will go even deeper underground and WILL eventually have nukes and THEN hit Israel with nukes this time.


@AverageJoe1 said
Tiresome posting. You say I am not reading your personal opinions, as you chide our president for following the law to get rid of invaders. Prob is, you hate Trump, and you love invaders...it is all about YOU and what you think. zzzzzzzzz
I love Trump and,.... follow me here...I hate invaders. Do you really \want to spar about this. Like you spar that boys shoul ...[text shortened]... .com/homenews/administration/5357797-trump-administration-seeing-record-low-border-encounters-homan/
WHAT invaders? That ''invader'' ploy is what Trump is using to deploy MILITARY to US cities in directly against the Posse Comitatus bill which says our military will not be used to quell protests of American citizens protesting government policies.

The really sad part is folks like you thinking there is nothing wrong with Trump using the sick excuse of INVASION and LA BURNING TO THE GROUND, which is EXACTLY what Trump said, so now Trump OWNS ALL 50 states National Guard and now sending MARINES to quell protests that are 99% non violent but one or two burned cars and that is the excuse Trump uses to send in heavily armed marines who are supposed to be used to kill actual enemies and now we have the first of many coming up arrests BY MARINES ON US CITIZENS.
And you think there is nothing wrong with that.
Even though that is EXACTLY what goes on in RUSSIA, CHINA, IRAN, NORTH KOREA.
So that's ok with you?


@sonhouse said
RIGHT. Fox news having agents on the ground in Iran, or Syria or China or Russia.
Are you that stupid you could actually believe that? Fox is an ENTERTAINMENT network and they could give a rats ass what is going on in other countries.

You want unbiased news? Here is one I am quite sure you are too scared to even CONSIDER looking at it.
John Stewart has a deal, 40% off i ...[text shortened]... go even deeper underground and WILL eventually have nukes and THEN hit Israel with nukes this time.
Y'all.. I think this sonhouse character has single-handedly decided that we SHOULD NOT do anythiing about nuclear arms growth in Iran. Does anyone else read him that way? Do you think he knows what he is taking about?
All presidents since 1979 have wanted to get rid of nukes in Iran. Trump, that dam do-nothing Trump, is diong something about it.
Sonhouse.....you know he is quite the success, he AIN'T exactly going to walk away, you knowwhatimean??!?!? So, it will happen, the world rejoices, and demand the Nobel Prize for Trump. It is only given to libs, witness how he was snubbed creating the Abrahm Accords, so he will likely not get it.

Sonhouse: When Trump prevails over the Ayatollah people in Iran, will you praise his accomplishment? If Kamala were the one to pull it off.......would you praise Kamala.???

You sure lose a lot of debates, little guy.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Y'all.. I think this sonhouse character has single-handedly decided that we SHOULD NOT do anythiing about nuclear arms growth in Iran. Does anyone else read him that way? Do you think he knows what he is taking about?
All presidents since 1979 have wanted to get rid of nukes in Iran. Trump, that dam do-nothing Trump, is diong something about it.
Sonhouse. ...[text shortened]... to pull it off.......would you praise Kamala.???

You sure lose a lot of debates, little guy.
An example of the reporting system in Ground News:

"Coverage Details
Total News Sources
34
Leaning Left
6
Leaning Right
8
Center
14
Last Updated
40 minutes ago
Bias Distribution
50% Center

I already told you Trump HATED anything started by Obama and couldn't WAIT till he could crush the ALREADY WORKING IRAN deal.
If you don't believe it, GOOGLE it.

Like I said, IRAN was COMPLYING but Trump didn't listen to his own security advisors and just unilaterally pulled out of the deal which BTW was not just IRAN V US deal, it was LITERALLY multi lateral, many countries signed off INCLUDING CHINA, RUSSIA, NORTH KOREA.

but that wasn't good enough for Trump BECAUSE it was an Obama deal so kill it he did and now here it is TEN YEARS LATER in the throws of another war, THREE now and Iran showing advanced missile technology rendering our and Israeli missile defense to be only 65% effective so ONE THIRD of those missiles are getting through. Does that mean NOTHING to you?

When experts and historians around the world have shown conclusively regime change does not work.

So we THINK we change the government say of Iran, nearly ONE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE.

Do you really think they will stop all hidden resistance units? So we go in, bomb the crap out of them and we think WOW, we have installed a DEMOCRACY in Iran. So a year later, things cool down so we think, get complacent and BOOM all of a sudden we have another Cuba on our hands.

That has been shown time and time again to not work.
But your Lord Trump, not giving a CRAP about history, goes, REGIME CHANGE, Its on the table.

Incompetence in plain view.
And you agree with every lie puked out by Trump, every wish washy decision, one week tariffs are on, the next week tariffs are off and you rationalize all of that away with WOW, such MASTERLY display of negotiations.

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@sonhouse said
WHAT invaders? That ''invader'' ploy is what Trump is using to deploy MILITARY to US cities in directly against the Posse Comitatus bill which says our military will not be used to quell protests of American citizens protesting government policies.

The really sad part is folks like you thinking there is nothing wrong with Trump using the sick excuse of INVASION and LA BUR ...[text shortened]... ven though that is EXACTLY what goes on in RUSSIA, CHINA, IRAN, NORTH KOREA.
So that's ok with you?
Whew.
So you, who called Jan 6 a....what did you call it, anyway?.....you are now saying that the people who barged in droves and swarms into our country were not invading our country? How bout you give us one word for what that activity would be called?

Could you start a thread that you might win? You never have. It would be entertaining.

This shouse character says we are just like a few communist countries which he lists. My my. And the girl in congress, who wears a turban to hide what is under there, says the USA is the worst. Said it Thursday.
Good company, little guy


@sonhouse said
An example of the reporting system in Ground News:

"Coverage Details
Total News Sources
34
Leaning Left
6
Leaning Right
8
Center
14
Last Updated
40 minutes ago
Bias Distribution
50% Center
somebody help me with this please, i am abut spent for the day. There are some really unhappy people on the Forum, they write anything. And never tell us, to what end? I think they each write to themselves.