@vivify saidActually you are evading the point here. All along there was fighting and skirmishes between Jews and Arabs from the very beginning of the zionist movement in 1890. . In 1948 when the British left and full-scale war broke out, the Jews won, although they were outnumbered.
Remember how unwilling you were to condemn the Israeli terrorists in the West Bank? Whatever reasons you have for doing so, the same can be applied to Palestinians.
Still the terrorism only started around the 6-Day War in 1967. The Arabs realised that there was no other way to beat the Jews. They had 2 options
- live in peace
- terrorism
Now its their way of life.
@Rajk999 saidBS.
Actually you are evading the point here. All along there was fighting and skirmishes between Jews and Arabs from the very beginning of the zionist movement in 1890. . In 1948 when the British left and full-scale war broke out, the Jews won, although they were outnumbered.
Still the terrorism only started around the 6-Day War in 1967. The Arabs realised that there was n ...[text shortened]... ay to beat the Jews. They had 2 options
- live in peace
- terrorism
Now its their way of life.
The stern gang was doing terrorism before that.
@Rajk999 saidNot the UN.
Thats all a bunch of irrelevant nonsense. We are trying to establish a factual timeline of what happened from the time the British decided, with UN to partition Palestine, to the Nakba when Palestinians fled or were expelled. Who started the terrorism. So all your foolishness that you constantly repeat about, puppet govt, LON v UN, Imperialist agenda, broken promises ... seriously nobody cares and it has no bearing on anything.
League of Nations!
@shavixmir saidI know you kinda slow and your mind is filled with obscenities, so I will explain it to you. Nobody is saying there was no terrorism on either side prior to Israel becoming an independent state. There were para-military, militia, gangs that terrorised the enemy on both sides from the very beginning of Zionist movement into Israel since 1890. In the case of the Stern Gang, they were never supported by the state and their leader was in fact executed by the British prior to 1948. All these gangs [incl Irgun, Lehi] were disbanded and their forces incorporated into the army when Israel became a state in 1948.
BS.
The stern gang was doing terrorism before that.
The terrorism which is being discussed now is state sponsored / condoned terrorism.
@Rajk999 saidWere the activist members of the Israeli government inducted into the IDF?
I know you kinda slow and your mind is filled with obscenities, so I will explain it to you. Nobody is saying there was no terrorism on either side prior to Israel becoming an independent state. There were para-military, militia, gangs that terrorised the enemy on both sides from the very beginning of Zionist movement into Israel since 1890. In the case of the Stern Gang, t ...[text shortened]... tate in 1948.
The terrorism which is being discussed now is state sponsored / condoned terrorism.
Did the Israeli government not declare Lehi a terrorist organisation until after Folke Bernadotte was assissinated?
Did the Israeli government not grant the Lehi members a general amnesty?
Did Israel, in the early 80's, not institute the Lehi ribbon, a military decoration?
Did Yitzhak Shamir not become prime minister of Israel and was he not a leader of Lehi?
And is Lehi not the Stern Gang?
You should see larger contexts and be less secure of your judgements on who is slow or not.
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@happy-chappy saidHe is a C.nT, that cannot think straight. As long as those Hamas animals are holding hostages, abusing them, raping them, killing them, there will be no peace and more Palestinians will die. Now with the war moving north, Lebanese are going die as well. Next Iran is going to stick their nose in and get clobbered.
Erdogan is nailing it again again
https://youtu.be/dmfSZ2dAl2c?si=fyvjdEAMQAfJJfez
So keep crying and complaining and hold hostages. Damn fools.
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@shavixmir saidMore irrelevant nonsense. In 1948 both sides had an opportunity for peaceful co-existance. The actual division of Palestine was irrelevant at that time, as this could have been negotiated. It was a chance to end the fighting and begin building 2 nations side by side. But regardless of the division, the Arabs made it clear that there is going to be no Jewish state in Palestine. This is the problem today.
Were the activist members of the Israeli government inducted into the IDF?
Did the Israeli government not declare Lehi a terrorist organisation until after Folke Bernadotte was assissinated?
Did the Israeli government not grant the Lehi members a general amnesty?
Did Israel, in the early 80's, not institute the Lehi ribbon, a military decoration?
Did Yitzhak Shamir n ...[text shortened]... Gang?
You should see larger contexts and be less secure of your judgements on who is slow or not.
This is why we are taking 1948 as the watershed period when we ignore what happened before. Islamic terrorism took off in that period and escalated after the 6-Day War in 1967.
If you have something to add which took place post 1949 after Nakba, I would be happy to hear it. Feel free to use your normal obscenities. I know you probably got tourettes or something.
@shavixmir saidGood post.
Were the activist members of the Israeli government inducted into the IDF?
Did the Israeli government not declare Lehi a terrorist organisation until after Folke Bernadotte was assissinated?
Did the Israeli government not grant the Lehi members a general amnesty?
Did Israel, in the early 80's, not institute the Lehi ribbon, a military decoration?
Did Yitzhak Shamir n ...[text shortened]... Gang?
You should see larger contexts and be less secure of your judgements on who is slow or not.
I noticed that Folke Bernadotte's assassin was Ben-Gurion's personal bodyguard.
@Rajk999 saidBs.
More irrelevant nonsense. In 1948 both sides had an opportunity for peaceful co-existance. The actual division of Palestine was irrelevant at that time, as this could have been negotiated. It was a chance to end the fighting and begin building 2 nations side by side. But regardless of the division, the Arabs made it clear that there is going to be no Jewish state in Pales ...[text shortened]... hear it. Feel free to use your normal obscenities. I know you probably got tourettes or something.