@Soothfast saidHow about Islam's crusade to colonize Europe?
Israel is the primary engine of Islamic radicalism.
Israel is the West's last Crusade, in a sense. And like all the Crusades before, it will end in failure. Provided the colony is not dismantled or wiped out, it will come to a point where Jews will become a minority in their own "country."
No more money for Israel. Netanyahoo says Israel can go it alone, and I say let it.
How is that crusade destined to end?
@Rajk999 saidYou could read some books. They'll help you understand the complex interconnectedness of geopolitical events and social forces. Because yes, the great bulk of Islamic radicalism can be traced to Israel, from its establishment by imperial planners after World War 2 to its present-day status as a US client state. Sometimes the connection is indirect, being maybe the second or third domino in the chain. You'll need to dust off your thinking cap, I'm afraid.
Got nothing to say to support your nonsense about Israel being the driving force of Radical Islam .. thought so. Next time think before posting rubbish.
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@sh76 saidDo you really think Muslim refugees flocking to Europe are there with the intent to "colonize" the continent? Like it's some kind of planned operation?
How about Islam's crusade to colonize Europe?
How is that crusade destined to end?
The overwhelming majority of them are just trying to make a life for themselves somewhere. Anywhere.
You used to have half a brain. What did you do with it?
Anyway, the weak play at "whataboutism" is duly noted.
@Soothfast saidWhat a load of nonsense.
You could read some books. They'll help you understand the complex interconnectedness of geopolitical events and social forces. Because yes, the great bulk of Islamic radicalism can be traced to Israel, from its establishment by imperial planners after World War 2 to its present-day status as a US client state. Sometimes the connection is indirect, being maybe the second or third domino in the chain. You'll need to dust off your thinking cap, I'm afraid.
How is Israel the driving force for Islamic radlcalism?
Make your points instead of telling people to read some books .
@Soothfast said===Do you really think Muslim refugees flocking to Europe are there with the intent to "colonize" the continent? Like it's some kind of planned operation?===
Do you really think Muslim refugees flocking to Europe are there with the intent to "colonize" the continent? Like it's some kind of planned operation?
The overwhelming majority of them are just trying to make a life for themselves somewhere. Anywhere.
You used to have half a brain. What did you do with it?
Anyway, the weak play at "whataboutism" is duly noted.
It's probably not "planned" infosar as it's unlikely the Muslim world could agree on what color the Sun is, let alone the planning it would take for this type of operation.
But many or most of them are guided by the Quran principle that non-Muslim lands are idar al-harb - "lands of war" - unless they've made some sort of acceptable concession to Islam.
@sh76 saidI've long noticed a curious phenomenon, which is that Christians are not expected to own or answer for every verse in the Bible—especially the blood-soaked and barbaric Old Testament—but somehow Muslims are all answerable, to the last man, woman, and child, for every declaration in the Quran.
===Do you really think Muslim refugees flocking to Europe are there with the intent to "colonize" the continent? Like it's some kind of planned operation?===
It's probably not "planned" infosar as it's unlikely the Muslim world could agree on what color the Sun is, let alone the planning it would take for this type of operation.
But many or most of them are guided by the Q ...[text shortened]... idar al-harb[/i] - "lands of war" - unless they've made some sort of acceptable concession to Islam.
You said it yourself: the Muslim world couldn't agree on the color of the sun, by which I assume you mean they have a diversity of opinion on all matters, including what to take away from the Quran as essential to daily living. Yet somehow, like a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat, you go on to claim "many or most" Muslims accept the precept that non-Muslim lands are ripe for forcible Islamization. Some believe that, I'm sure, but if we want to talk about fringe groups, there are plenty of nuts to pick off the Christian fundamentalist tree who believe things that would curdle the blood of any sane person.
Your insistence on deflecting from the subject of Israeli war crimes (the point of this thread) to indulge in whataboutism concerning Muslims is again noted.
@Soothfast saidMost Christians either don't take the Biblical prescriptions for violence literally or interpret them out of existence or say they were superseded by the NT.
I've long noticed a curious phenomenon, which is that Christians are not expected to own or answer for every verse in the Bible—especially the blood-soaked and barbaric Old Testament—but somehow Muslims are all answerable, to the last man, woman, and child, for every declaration in the Quran.
You said it yourself: the Muslim world couldn't agree on the color of the sun, ...[text shortened]... war crimes (the point of this thread) to indulge in whataboutism concerning Muslims is again noted.
Muslims, on the other hand, by and large, take the Quran's violent imperatives damned seriously.
Therein lies the difference.
In any case, I have nothing against any individual Muslim and certainly I'm not in favor of treating them badly. I am extremely concerned about Islamic radicals infiltrating western civilization and eventually stripping it of small-l "liberal" values.
Anyone who doesn't share that concern is living in la-la-land.
@sh76 saidMuslims will undergo a similar culture shift over about two generations as their children and grandchildren assimilate.
Most Christians either don't take the Biblical prescriptions for violence literally or interpret them out of existence or say they were superseded by the NT.
Muslims, on the other hand, by and large, take the Quran's violent imperatives damned seriously.
Therein lies the difference.
In any case, I have nothing against any individual Muslim and certainly I'm not in favor ...[text shortened]... ng it of small-l "liberal" values.
Anyone who doesn't share that concern is living in la-la-land.
@sh76 saidI'd worry a lot less about Sharia law being forced down your throat in the US or Europe, and a lot more about the Christo-fascists in Washington who every day are working to establish the Fourth Reich, and then, later on, the Western equivalent of the Taliban. Take a gander at Project 2025 for full details.
I am extremely concerned about Islamic radicals infiltrating western civilization and eventually stripping it of small-l "liberal" values.
@sh76 saidIncidentally, established Muslims in Europe show no inclination toward being antithetical to Western values. Take a look at Albania, which is majority Muslim, and well on its way to joining the European Union.
Most Christians either don't take the Biblical prescriptions for violence literally or interpret them out of existence or say they were superseded by the NT.
Muslims, on the other hand, by and large, take the Quran's violent imperatives damned seriously.
Therein lies the difference.
In any case, I have nothing against any individual Muslim and certainly I'm not in favor ...[text shortened]... ng it of small-l "liberal" values.
Anyone who doesn't share that concern is living in la-la-land.
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@AThousandYoung saidThat's right. That's the way it works. Europe has a population of over 744 million. This hysterical nonsense that Muslims are going to take over the continent someday and behead all the infidels is utter rubbish. They'll assimilate, like the millions of Turks in Germany who arrived a couple generations ago.
Muslims will undergo a similar culture shift over about two generations as their children and grandchildren assimilate.
You can quit screaming and swinging your brooms, sh76 and Rajk999, and climb down from your chairs. It's just a mouse.
@Rajk999 saidUh… you do realise I’m an atheist, don’t you?
Another stupid comment from yet another Muslim. The Quran has removed your brains and your ability to carry on a discussion without the obscenities and insults.
Here is the issue. Soothfast said Israel is the primary engine of Islamic radicalism.. Do you agree? Try to make an intelligent comment instead of embarrassing yourself.
You’re a fascist. And fascists are not to be reasoned with, but killed.
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@shavixmir saidYou are no atheist. Muslims have an ingrained desire to kill people who are unbelievers, who insult Islam and Mohammed. I maintain Islam is an evil religion and Mohammed was a rapist and a pedophile, and that is the reason you want to kill.
Uh… you do realise I’m an atheist, don’t you?
You’re a fascist. And fascists are not to be reasoned with, but killed.