@wajoma saidWhat kind of details are you looking for? Focusing on the protestors is one way of minimizing all the other stuff they did. It's there if you care to look.
Yes, Trump uttered some majic code words, they could be 'Stop the steal' they could have been some arrangement of words contained in a tweet, and yet again they may have been part of a speech delivered earlier, No1. has tried all three of these. And on this basis an unruly mob were to track down certain people and get them to write certain specific legal statements, if there w ...[text shortened]... ll we've seen is two words 'a plan' no details of the plan, no details of who was planning the plan.
It's pretty clearly laid out in the indictment. They had exhausted all legal options to challenge election results, knew they had lost, and continued intentionally pressuring officials, drafting new electors, in an attempt to unlawfully change the outcome.
I don't think you really care or you would have looked it up by now.
@wajoma saidIs "break through police lines by violence, enter the Capitol by smashing windows and doors, proceed to where the EC certification was taking place and force Congress to certify Trump the winner" specific enough as a "plan"?
Yes, Trump uttered some majic code words, they could be 'Stop the steal' they could have been some arrangement of words contained in a tweet, and yet again they may have been part of a speech delivered earlier, No1. has tried all three of these. And on this basis an unruly mob were to track down certain people and get them to write certain specific legal statements, if there w ...[text shortened]... ll we've seen is two words 'a plan' no details of the plan, no details of who was planning the plan.
Or are you going to keep insisting that a plan Tarrio said included "storming the Capitol" and Biggs talked about in several texts sent to multiple other Proud Boys didn't exist?
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@wajoma saidThe same footage was presented at Trump's second impeachment trial. It starts at 13:15 here and lasts about one minute. https://www.bing.com/videos/[WORD TOO LONG]
Need an account to view that. A window can only be broken once, how many windows were broken did this equal the same number as 'the vast majority'.
If you think this indicates a plan then whose plan? and why was no evidence hung on Biggs or Tarrio (did not attend Jan 6th) as in the mechanics of the plan i.e. group A breaks West windows at 10.15 group B breaks blah blah ad ...[text shortened]... plan presented, it's because there was a PB event planned and it was nothing to do with the capitol.
EDIT: Damnit. Put this in your Google search bar: "Full Video: Impeachment Managers Show New Graphic Security Footage Of Capitol Riot | NBC News" and it's the first hit.
@no1marauder saidWho are you quoting here?
Is "break through police lines by violence, enter the Capitol by smashing windows and doors, proceed to where the EC certification was taking place and force Congress to certify Trump the winner" specific enough as a "plan"?
Or are you going to keep insisting that a plan Tarrio said included "storming the Capitol" and Biggs talked about in several texts sent to multiple other Proud Boys didn't exist?
@wildgrass saidThe imagined plan, the necessary plan is too convoluted to be considered anything but preposterous. An unruly mob is an unruly mob. How could they count on 'X' number of people acting in 'Y' way.
What kind of details are you looking for? Focusing on the protestors is one way of minimizing all the other stuff they did. It's there if you care to look.
It's pretty clearly laid out in the indictment. They had exhausted all legal options to challenge election results, knew they had lost, and continued intentionally pressuring officials, drafting new electors, in an at ...[text shortened]... lawfully change the outcome.
I don't think you really care or you would have looked it up by now.
@athousandyoung saidYes you're right, with virtually no communication with the outside world and if allowed to mingle with a few other prisoners he probably would have kick started the next great american revolution, you're a very clever fellow, very clever indeed.some people earn it
Apparently Biggs earned it.
@wajoma saidI'm stating what happened except that the evacuation of the Chambers presented the last part but only by the narrowest margins; rioters were 40 feet away from Mike Pence, Senator Romney was walking directly towards a group of rioters before someone told him to run in the other direction, the group led by Ashli Babbitt were only a short corridor away from members of the House, etc. etc. etc.
Who are you quoting here?
Your Dream World denials have little to do with the reality of what occurred on January 6th, 2021.
@wajoma saidWhen it planned in advance to have a certain number at a certain place and then you direct their movements by bullhorn (as Joe Biggs did) it's easy to create an "unruly mob".
The imagined plan, the necessary plan is too convoluted to be considered anything but preposterous. An unruly mob is an unruly mob. How could they count on 'X' number of people acting in 'Y' way.
@no1marauder saidHere it is:
The same footage was presented at Trump's second impeachment trial. It starts at 13:15 here and lasts about one minute. https://www.bing.com/videos/[WORD TOO LONG] ...[text shortened]... hment Managers Show New Graphic Security Footage Of Capitol Riot | NBC News" and it's the first hit.
Starting at 13:15, as you say.
@no1marauder saidYou were quoting yourself. Message received.
I'm stating what happened except that the evacuation of the Chambers presented the last part but only by the narrowest margins; rioters were 40 feet away from Mike Pence, Senator Romney was walking directly towards a group of rioters before someone told him to run in the other direction, the group led by Ashli Babbitt were only a short corridor away from members of the Ho ...[text shortened]...
Your Dream World denials have little to do with the reality of what occurred on January 6th, 2021.