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@no1marauder saidseems you are posting stupid shyt in support of the terrorists
You remain the gullible dupe you always have been. The IDF used the same footage from Al-Jazeera but edited it to leave out the explosions from the nearby air strikes.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/18/politics/us-intel-gaza-hospital-blast/index.html
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@wildgrass saidLMFAO..what the hell are you talking about iraq for?
You're out there still defending Colin Powells intelligence on WMDs ???
@mott-the-hoople saidHistory repeats.
LMFAO..what the hell are you talking about iraq for?
Super skeptical anti government types see a terrorist attack unfolding and all of a sudden they're towing the government line, hyping sketchy incomplete narratives pushed by the war mongers, and slamming anyone who dares question what the CIA says.
Let's go to war! Hoo rah.
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@wildgrass saidnah, you are just desperately trying to remain relevant in this thread. cant win by being on the terrorists side so you bring up iraq that no one was talking about 😂
History repeats.
Super skeptical anti government types see a terrorist attack unfolding and all of a sudden they're towing the government line, hyping sketchy incomplete narratives pushed by the war mongers, and slamming anyone who dares question what the CIA says.
Let's go to war! Hoo rah.
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@wildgrass saidYeah here we go again same old war mongers pushing same old BS groupthink
History repeats.
Super skeptical anti government types see a terrorist attack unfolding and all of a sudden they're towing the government line, hyping sketchy incomplete narratives pushed by the war mongers, and slamming anyone who dares question what the CIA says.
Let's go to war! Hoo rah.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/26/israel-hamas-war-protesters-keir-starmer-labour?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
@wildgrass saidJust curious. Anyone still think the IDF was responsible for the hospital carpark 'air strike'? Or was it one of thousands of failed hamas rockets?
History repeats.
Super skeptical anti government types see a terrorist attack unfolding and all of a sudden they're towing the government line, hyping sketchy incomplete narratives pushed by the war mongers, and slamming anyone who dares question what the CIA says.
Let's go to war! Hoo rah.
Not necessarily you wildgrass, but anyone? No.1? zahlooney bamboozle? anyone?
Will there be any apologies from the conclusion jumpers.
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@wajoma saidShow us the evidence and I hope it’s not that diagram that the IDF drew with crayons. Or the radio commas interception in thick Arab accent 😂
Just curious. Anyone still think the IDF was responsible for the hospital carpark 'air strike'? Or was it one of thousands of failed hamas rockets?
Not necessarily you wildgrass, but anyone? No.1? zahlooney bamboozle? anyone?
Will there be any apologies from the conclusion jumpers.
As I said before the truth about that is still to be verified
It is Islamic jihad Palestine that is the front runner for that not Hamas, but hey certainly foreign dudes
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@kevcvs57 saidEven the BBC, which shot its load in the first minutes blaming Israel and has now descended into a "we don't know yet" pose, in spite of itself, says:
Show us the evidence and I hope it’s not that diagram that the IDF drew with crayons. Or the radio commas interception in thick Arab accent 😂
As I said before the truth about that is still to be verified
It is Islamic jihad Palestine that is the front runner for that not Hamas, but hey certainly foreign dudes
Notable lack of weapon fragments so far
It is sometimes the case that what cannot be seen is as telling as what can be seen.
Usually one of the most important elements in investigating incidents of this kind is an on-the-ground investigation, including examining and recovering debris that might provide clues about the nature and origin of the weapon.
Pictures taken in the immediate aftermath show Hamas-led security forces on the scene, with officers wearing tops with logos of the Palestinian police's Explosive Ordnance Disposal Unit examining the crater.
But we have not seen any evidence of weapon fragments being recovered and there has been no significant update from officials in Gaza about their investigation.
Hamas told the New York Times that the missile had disintegrated beyond recognition. "The missile has dissolved like salt in the water. It's vaporised. Nothing is left," said Ghazi Hamad, a senior Hamas official.
Experts have said it is extremely unusual for a blast site such as this not to yield debris of this kind.
Former UN war crimes investigator Marc Garlasco tweeted: "In 20 years of investigating war crimes this is the first time I haven't seen any weapon remnants. And I've worked three wars in Gaza."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67216929
In other words:
1. The blast happens
2. Hamas agents are on the scene first and scour it
3. All the weapons fragments go missing
4. Hamas tells the New York Times that the missile had disintegrated beyond recognition, a claim that is implausible
Obviously, Hamas removed the weapons fragments. Hmmm. I wonder why.
Whether it was Hamas or PIJ I have no idea, but it wasn't Israel.
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@wajoma saidOccam's Razor still makes the IDF the likely culprit.
Just curious. Anyone still think the IDF was responsible for the hospital carpark 'air strike'? Or was it one of thousands of failed hamas rockets?
Not necessarily you wildgrass, but anyone? No.1? zahlooney bamboozle? anyone?
Will there be any apologies from the conclusion jumpers.
They were bombing or shelling in the area of the hospital within minutes of the blast and had hit the hospital with a missile days before. The footage of the so-called misfires rocket shows it nowhere near the hospital. And close up video of the explosion has the typical sound of advanced weaponry in flight seconds before the blast.
Sure, an independent investigation should be done but there's no way Israel will ever allow that. And the ones who should be ashamed of their gullibility are the SH76's of the world, frothing at the mouth to absolve the IDF of any guilt whatsoever now or in the future.
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@no1marauder saidcommon sense makes you a terror loving idiot
Occam's Razor still makes the IDF the likely culprit.
They were bombing or shelling in the area of the hospital within minutes of the blast and had hit the hospital with a missile days before. The footage of the so-called misfires rocket shows it nowhere near the hospital. And close up video of the explosion has the typical sound of advanced weaponry in flight seconds ...[text shortened]... of the world, frothing at the mouth to absolve the IDF of any guilt whatsoever now or in the future.
@no1marauder saidYou keep peddling the 'hit the hospital days before', as if there's some link. There's none. There were not 500 womens, childrens and old peoples blown up.
Occam's Razor still makes the IDF the likely culprit.
They were bombing or shelling in the area of the hospital within minutes of the blast and had hit the hospital with a missile days before. The footage of the so-called misfires rocket shows it nowhere near the hospital. And close up video of the explosion has the typical sound of advanced weaponry in flight seconds ...[text shortened]... of the world, frothing at the mouth to absolve the IDF of any guilt whatsoever now or in the future.
The Jihad Forever missile hit the car park, no hospital was hit. We've all seen the pictures of that at least. That is proven and obvious for all to see, so straight away Hamas are lying, and your response is; maybe they only lied about that?
Did they receive the warning for the previous strike i.e. the IDF is precisely placing their ordnance to minimise civilian harm, Hamas fire their missiles to do as much civilian harm as possible and they are continuing to do so now. We've all seen the war porn, the camera is aimed at the target, the target is hit, the camera does not jerk around looking all over for where the strike hit, here's the building, here's the building destroyed. The idea that with the technology the Israeli's have they're just aiming in the general direction and hoping for the best is you trying to deny what you're eyes are seeing.
Were Hamas using the hospital for cover?
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@wajoma saidThe "precise targeting" BS AGAIN. Did they "precisely target" when they hit the hospital two nights before?
You keep peddling the 'hit the hospital days before', as if there's some link. There's none. There were not 500 womens, childrens and old peoples blown up.
The Jihad Forever missile hit the car park, no hospital was hit. We've all seen the pictures of that at least. That is proven and obvious for all to see, so straight away Hamas are lying, and your response is; maybe ...[text shortened]... best is you trying to deny what you're eyes are seeing.
Were Hamas using the hospital for cover?
They've thrown something like 10,000 to 20,000 projectiles into an area less than half the size of District of Columbia. Your claims are utterly ridiculous (yet again).
Obviously you didn't bother to look at the links I provided which show the so-called "misfired" rocket that the IDF claimed hit the hospital was miles away while Israeli ordinance was hitting in the vicinity of the hospital literally minutes before. But hey if you want to swallow "goobermint" propaganda (and from the military no less) hook, line and sinker rather than believe your own eyes, that's up to you.
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@no1marauder saidDo you agree it was the hospital car park and not the hospital that was hit?
The "precise targeting" BS AGAIN. Did they "precisely target" when they hit the hospital two nights before?
They've thrown something like 10,000 to 20,000 projectiles into an area less than half the size of District of Columbia. Your claims are utterly ridiculous (yet again).
Obviously you didn't bother to look at the links I provided which show the so-called "misfi ...[text shortened]... rom the military no less) hook, line and sinker rather than believe your own eyes, that's up to you.
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@wajoma saidSure.
Do you agree it was the hospital car park and not the hospital that was hit?
Point?
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"Precise targeting"? Not according to the IDF:
" Speaking on Tuesday morning, IDF spokesperson R Adm Daniel Hagari made the startling admission that “hundreds of tons of bombs” had already been dropped on the tiny strip, adding that “the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy”."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/10/right-now-it-is-one-day-at-a-time-life-on-israels-frontline-with-gaza
This is consistent with the "Dahiya Doctrine" I have already cited. https://truthout.org/articles/the-dahiya-doctrine-state-terrorism-and-a-philosophy-of-war-crime/