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Originally posted by ivanhoeHere's an exercise for you, ivanhoe. Get some empty, gallon, plastic, milk jugs and fill them with any kind of colored Jello, red is appropriate. Make sure they have screw tops and that you screw the tops tightly on them when they're filled completely to the top. Set them out in your backyard and shoot them with a high-powered rifle. Use a variety of bullets, from soft-nosed hollowpoints to full metal jackets. Watch what happens. I'll give you a hint: all kinds of strange things happen. A full metal jacket might pass through without even moving a bottle. One thing you will notice is that when you're done you'll have as much Jello dripping off yourself and stuff behind you as you have dripping off stuff to your right and left and on the far side of the bottles.
Well ?
You can actually buy a material called Ballistic Gel for experiments like this but Jello and plastic bottles work good too.
Originally posted by DelmerInteresting. The problem is that I am not allowed to own whatever rifle. Owning firearms is simply forbidden in the Netherlands and knowing my compatriots it will stay this way in the future.
Here's an exercise for you, ivanhoe. Get some empty plastic milk jugs and fill them with any kind of colored Jello, red is appropriate. Make sure they have screw tops and that you screw the tops tightly on them when they're filled completely to the top. Set them out in your backyard and shoot them with a high-powered rifle. Use a variety of bullets, from soft ...[text shortened]... and stuff behind you as you have to your right and left and on the far side of the bottles.
Originally posted by ivanhoeI understand. Here I simply step out of the back door and shoot, much to the discomfort of our raccoons, cats and dog. But you can imagine what happens when a bullet moving between 2,000 and 3,000 fps hits a jug of Jello. All kinds of things you wouldn't expect to happen actually do happen.
Interesting. The problem is that I am not allowed to own whatever rifle. Owning firearms is simply forbidden in the Netherlands and knowing my compatriots it will stay this way in the future.
Originally posted by DelmerThen how can somebody draw the conclusion the bullet came from behind ?
I understand. Here I simply step out of the back door and shoot, much to the discomfort of our raccoons, cats and dog. But you can imagine what happens when a bullet moving between 2,000 and 3,000 fps hits a jug of Jello. All kinds of things you wouldn't expect to happen actually do happen.
Originally posted by ivanhoeHere since you refuse to read the post on page 1:
Then how can somebody draw the conclusion the bullet came from behind ?
The reason is obvious if you understand basic Newtonian physics: since for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, a shot that pushes the target in the direction of the shot must push the shooter back by a comparable amount.
Actually, that same Newtonian principle explains why JFK's head would have moved towards the shooter. The bullet doesn't meet much resistance as it enters and is going pretty much the same speed when it exits, but as it exits it also takes lots of pieces of skull and brain with it. This makes a kind of jet blast which propels the head in the opposite direction. This effect is easily confirmed by wrapping a melon in one-inch fibreglass tape and shooting it with a high-powered rifle. The melon actually moves toward the shooter. This demonstration was devised by Dr. Luis Alvarez, a friend of JFK, and was demonstrated by Penn and Teller in their book How To Play With Your Food and again on an episode of [expletive deleted]!
Originally posted by no1marauderThen the fact that Jacky Kennedy climbed on the back of the car to grab a piece of the President's head is indicative to the theory that the bullet which killed the President came from the front.
Here since you refuse to read the post on page 1:
The reason is obvious if you understand basic Newtonian physics: since for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, a shot that pushes the target in the direction of the shot must push the shooter back by a comparable amount.
Actually, that same Newtonian principle explains ...[text shortened]... eller in their book How To Play With Your Food and again on an episode of [expletive deleted]!
Originally posted by ivanhoeJackie Kennedy climbed on the back of the car; why no one knows. Being shot at makes you do funny things. A piece of the President's head being behind the President after the head shot is perfectly consistent with a shot from the back as the link explains.
Then the fact that Jacky Kennedy climbed on the back of the car to grab a piece of the President's head is indicative to the theory that the bullet which killed the President came from the front.
Originally posted by ivanhoeGrab a piece of his head? I expect Jackie was just getting the hell out of the car in the quickest way possible.
Then the fact that Jacky Kennedy climbed on the back of the car to grab a piece of the President's head is indicative to the theory that the bullet which killed the President came from the front.
Originally posted by ivanhoeThat's too bad. In Kentucky (Bullet County of all places) they have an annual "shoot-up." They shoot cars, refrigerators, stuff them with dynamite. They bring machine guns, pistols, rifles, assault rifles, you name it. There is even a psychiatrist from Nashville who comes every year and says it's the best therapy there is.
Interesting. The problem is that I am not allowed to own whatever rifle. Owning firearms is simply forbidden in the Netherlands and knowing my compatriots it will stay this way in the future.
Ivanhoe, I invite you.