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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Are you denying the veracity of my report or are you suggesting the surgeon, the head of the team who treated the President and pronounced him dead, is somehow wrong or "mistaken".
A) You haven't even provided the name of the so-called "chief surgeon" or any link supporting your claim;

B) If he claimed that there was an entrance wound in JFK's forehead, he was wrong. The autopsy was conclusive.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Marauder, you perform the same trick you also perform in other discussions, namely you start doubting the honesty of your opponents. A very nasty habit which introduces mistrust to the debate. It poisons the debate. This method is often used by politicians, but I think we should desist from using it.
What a hypocrite! You've been raving for weeks about the "puppet MSM parroting Hezbollah/Hamas/Whoeveryoudon'tlike propaganda"! You really have an enormous amount of chutzpah, Ivanhoe.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
A) You haven't even provided the name of the so-called "chief surgeon" or any link supporting your claim;

B) If he claimed that there was an entrance wound in JFK's forehead, he was wrong. The autopsy was conclusive.
The short film must be out there somewhere, but I vividly remember the announcement, and the way he pointed at the spot right above his right eye, claiming this shot killed the President.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
What a hypocrite! You've been raving for weeks about the "puppet MSM parroting Hezbollah/Hamas/Whoeveryoudon'tlike propaganda"! You really have an enormous amount of chutzpah, Ivanhoe.
Since when is Hezbullah or the MSM my debating opponent ?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
I saw the video in the first link on a TV show. I wish I could remember the name of the show; it used all the films made at the scene and some fancy computer generated models to show that all the physical evidence is completely consistent with Oswald being the shooter (and the only shooter). Of course, that has been well known for years to anybody who has honestly looked at the data.
The evidence and testimonies which contradict the Warren report have been removed from the table in a very consistent way. The Warren report is a perfect example of a so called "Tunnel Vision" report which has to prove a theory, in this case it was the theory that Lee Harvey Oswald was the one and only shooter and that he acted on his own. Information and testimonies pointing in a different direction were simply ignored.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
The evidence and testimonies which contradict the Warren report have been removed from the table in a very consistent way. The Warren report is a perfect example of a report which had to prove a theory, the theory that Lee Harvey Oswald was the one and only shooter and that he acted alone. Information and testimonies pointing in a different direction were simply ignored.
Have you ever read it? Or are you simply parroting the claims of conspiracy theorists?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Have you ever read it? Or are you simply parroting the claims of conspiracy theorists?
Have you read the Warren report ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Since when is Hezbullah or the MSM my debating opponent ?
No, you just criticize any of your "debating opponents" when they use MSM sources, which is what 99% of the non-conspiracy theorists do.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Have you read the Warren report ?
Yes, several times.

EDIT: Here educate yourself: http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/

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Following this thread takes me back to the day it happened (yes, I remember it well). Same questions, same debates as over 40 years ago!! I suspect you all will come to the same conclusions.

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Ug, the friggin' brains shot out the back of the guys head. It's clear on the zappruder tape that his brains get blown out the back of his head.

ONLY A SHOT FROM THE FRONT CAN DO THAT. End of story

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Originally posted by masscat
Following this thread takes me back to the day it happened (yes, I remember it well). Same questions, same debates as over 40 years ago!! I suspect you all will come to the same conclusions.
I remember it well also. Most of the people I was with at the time were convinced Russian nukes would be falling on the USA with 24 hours. I was a librarian on a bookmobile at a rural school in northwest Ohio. The next class scheduled to come to the bookmobile didn't show up so I went into the school to remind them. The whole school was watching TV. I joined them for about an hour and then the principal dismissed everyone and sent them home and I returned to our headquarters library.

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Originally posted by uzless
Ug, the friggin' brains shot out the back of the guys head. It's clear on the zappruder tape that his brains get blown out the back of his head.

ONLY A SHOT FROM THE FRONT CAN DO THAT. End of story
Wrong. See Newton's Third Law.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Yes, several times.

EDIT: Here educate yourself: http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/
... and you don't have any remarks about it ? The marauder agrees with the Warren report completely ? With the way they proceeded, the way they presented the evidence and their conclusions ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
... an you don't have any remarks about it ? The marauder agrees with the Warren report completely ? With the way they proceeded, the way they presented the evidence and their conclusions ?
Read it and come back in a few days. I've never agreed completely with anything or anybody, but they got the basic and important facts correct.