Originally posted by ivanhoeNo, it doesn't unless it magically didn't leave an entrance wound on his body.
I've never seen such a clear video of the Kennedy assassination
The last bullet clearly hits him in the forehead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAwV1Tor9js
A stabilised video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkBiN6BM4U8&NR
Your film is a montage of several bits of film that was on a TV special; the ones showing the limo during the firing is the well known, exhaustively analyzed Zapruder film.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIvanhoe, I hate to tell you this but what you're looking at is not the actual event unfolding before your eager eyes. What you're looking at are malleable images of that event. The actual event happened quite some time ago.
The last bullet hitting him in the forehead blew part of his head away. You can see the impact and then Kennedy's head moving backwards. No doubt that this bullet came from the front.
Here's a nice cut and paste for ya, Ivanhoe:
n the Zapruder film, starting with the third shot at frame 313, the upper right part of Kennedy's head blows out forward, and his head lurches back and to the left. According to the conspiracy theorists, there is no way this shot could have come from the book depository; it had to have come from the front, perhaps from the grassy knoll. The reason why, they say, is that the bullet entered from the front JFK's head and pushed his head backwards. A shot from behind, they tell us, would have propelled his head forwards.
This is completely wrong in every possible way. Bullets do not make such a splattering when entering, only with the exit wound. So this immediately rebuts the claim—an exit wound in the front means a shot from the rear.
Not only that, but as Kennedy's head was angled down at the time of the shot, the only clear shot of his head was from the book depository. A shooter trying to hit his head from the front would have to be under the floor of the front seat!
Also, there's no reason why a shot from the rear would move the head forward. It's a classic image in movies, where the hero shoots the bad guy and the bad guy is thrown backwards, but it just doesn't work. This was confirmed in Episode #25 of Mythbusters in which not even the most powerful firearms pushed the human-sized target in the direction of the shot. The reason is obvious if you understand basic Newtonian physics: since for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, a shot that pushes the target in the direction of the shot must push the shooter back by a comparable amount.
Actually, that same Newtonian principle explains why JFK's head would have moved towards the shooter. The bullet doesn't meet much resistance as it enters and is going pretty much the same speed when it exits, but as it exits it also takes lots of pieces of skull and brain with it. This makes a kind of jet blast which propels the head in the opposite direction. This effect is easily confirmed by wrapping a melon in one-inch fibreglass tape and shooting it with a high-powered rifle. The melon actually moves toward the shooter. This demonstration was devised by Dr. Luis Alvarez, a friend of JFK, and was demonstrated by Penn and Teller in their book How To Play With Your Food and again on an episode of [expletive deleted]!
Finally, in the Zapruder film frame immediately before Kennedy's head lurches back, it's possible that Kennedy's head is lurching forward. Again, this is consistent with being shot from behind -- the initial entry impact would push Kennedy's head forward, and the exit-wound "jet effect" would push Kennedy's head backward immediately thereafter.
skepticwiki.org/wiki/index.php/JFK_Assassination
You could also read "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.
Originally posted by no1marauderSeems to me there wouldn't be much practical differance if it HAD been proven a conspiracy. Face it, it wasn't just the one dude deciding on his own to off the president. He had backers. The only question left is how many others were there as shooting backups. If there were, it doesn't effect the outcome, JFK is still dead. The conspiracy theorists have made a nice living off it however. What would we do now anyway even if the 'conspiracy' was totaly uncovered and it was proven to have been ordered by Fidel. Or LBJ. Or Hoover. What outcome would be differant now?
Here's a nice cut and paste for ya, Ivanhoe:
n the Zapruder film, starting with the third shot at frame 313, the upper right part of Kennedy's head blows out forward, and his head lurches back and to the left. According to the conspiracy theorists, there is no way this shot could have come from the book depository; it had to have come from the front, ...[text shortened]... FK_Assassination
You could also read "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.
Originally posted by sonhouseI vote for Sam Giacanna (sp) in Chicago and a mob hit. Ruby seemed to have had connections with the mob. And history seems to indicate the Kennedy's double crossing Giacanna after the election.
Seems to me there wouldn't be much practical differance if it HAD been proven a conspiracy. Face it, it wasn't just the one dude deciding on his own to off the president. He had backers. The only question left is how many others were there as shooting backups. If there were, it doesn't effect the outcome, JFK is still dead. The conspiracy theorists have mad ...[text shortened]... oven to have been ordered by Fidel. Or LBJ. Or Hoover. What outcome would be differant now?
Originally posted by ivanhoeDo you have any links to videos that go on for almost an hour regarding Dr. Fetzer's theories of how the US government staged September 11th?
This gentleman raises some questions and answers them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C06dg7xjAMk&search=jfk%20conspiracy%20driver%20zapruder%20kennedy%20nwo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer
Originally posted by no1marauderI did some googling and the first review I found on the book "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner tells me the following:
Here's a nice cut and paste for ya, Ivanhoe:
n the Zapruder film, starting with the third shot at frame 313, the upper right part of Kennedy's head blows out forward, and his head lurches back and to the left. According to the conspiracy theorists, there is no way this shot could have come from the book depository; it had to have come from the front, FK_Assassination
You could also read "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.
"Gerald Posner argues that the Warren Commission properly investigated the assassination of JFK. He claims to have refuted the critics, purports to show what actually occurred, and asserts simple factual answers to explain complex problems that have plagued the subject for years. In the process he condemns all who do not agree with the official conclusions as theories driven by conjectures. At the same time his book is so theory driven, so rife with speculation, and so frequently unable to conform his text with the factual content in his sources that it stands as one of the stellar instances of irresponsible publishing on the subject.
Massive numbers of factual errors suffuse the book, which make it a veritable minefield."
The following is truly hilarious:
"Posner often presents the opposite of what the evidence says."
The book must be very entertaining and amusing to read ...... It appears the book stands in the famous Maraudian tradition we all have become to know and appreciate so much here at the RHP fora ......
Thanks for recommending this great book, marauder .......
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/the_critics/wrone/Review_of_Case_Closed.html
Originally posted by ivanhoeWhat nutjob conspiracy theorist wrote that review, Ivanhoe?
I did some googling and the first review I found on the book "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner tells me the following:
"Gerald Posner argues that the Warren Commission properly investigated the assassination of JFK. He claims to have refuted the critics, purports to show what actually occurred, and asserts simple factual answers to explain complex problems here at the RHP fora ......
Thanks for recommending this great book, marauder .......
EDIT: David R. Wrone. PFFT!