Originally posted by ivanhoeNo, one nutjob conspiracy thread at a time.
You're off topic marauder but by all means open a thread on the subject.
Do you now understand when a bullet exits an object, it forces the object back in the direction the bullet entered the object? Or do you need a review of high school science?
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Originally posted by no1marauderAre you sure the name Gerald Posner isn't one of your aliases ? His methods resemble your ways of reasoning in an unmistakable way .....
Here's a nice cut and paste for ya, Ivanhoe:
n the Zapruder film, starting with the third shot at frame 313, the upper right part of Kennedy's head blows out forward, and his head lurches back and to the left. According to the conspiracy theorists, there is no way this shot could have come from the book depository; it had to have come from the front, FK_Assassination
You could also read "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/the_critics/wrone/Review_of_Case_Closed.html
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Originally posted by DelmerThanks for the information, Del. I appreciate it ......
Ivanhoe, I hate to tell you this but what you're looking at is not the actual event unfolding before your eager eyes. What you're looking at are malleable images of that event. The actual event happened quite some time ago.
Originally posted by ivanhoeGo ahead and rely on Wrone; you obviously don't know anything about the Kennedy Conspiracy theorists.
Are you sure the name Gerald Posner isn't one of your aliases ? His methods resemble your ways of reasoning in an unmistakable way .....
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/the_critics/wrone/Review_of_Case_Closed.html
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Originally posted by ivanhoeRead the cut and paste, Ivanhoe. Or don't. Kennedy conspiracy theorists are laughable, esp. those who insist the fatal wound came from the front despite the overwhelming evidence from the autopsy to the contrary. They usually come up with the "switched body" theory to explain the autopsy away. Will you be going for that next?
Explain it to me, marauder.
EDIT: Review Newton's Third Law: www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/CLASS/newtlaws/u2l4a.html - 14k -
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Originally posted by no1marauderOut of curiosity: can you (or someone) tell me what was the caliber of the bullet that impacted the front head of JFK? *
Read the cut and paste, Ivanhoe. Or don't. Kennedy conspiracy theorists are laughable, esp. those who insist the fatal wound came from the front despite the overwhelming evidence from the autopsy to the contrary. They usually come up with the "switched body" theory to explain the autopsy away. Will you be going for that next?
EDIT: Review Newton's Third Law: www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/CLASS/newtlaws/u2l4a.html - 14k -
I googled for it, but to no avail.
- .22 LR amunition penetrates a body w/o a retocess (of the body)effect. But has very little precision,
- 9mm is not useful for shooting targets beyond 50 meters. (the projectil falls down about 40-50 cm at this distance, so it is considered non efective). But the KE should impulse a human head "in dietro".
- 7.62 has an almost tended trajectory over 1500 meters or so.
High precision. A 7.62 rifle is a mortal arm if you have the time to aim your target, and you are only a medium qualifyed shooter.
But only one shoot?
(Actual) Automatic fusils can fire at a cadence of 10 shoots/sec.
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* this is the main point.
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Originally posted by CrazyLilTing6.5 mm fired from a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, a bolt action weapon.
Out of curiosity: can you (or someone) tell me what was the caliber of the bullet that impacted the front head of JFK? *
I googled for it, but to no avail.
- .22 LR amunition penetrates a body w/o a retocess (of the body)effect. But has very little precision,
- 9mm is not useful for shooting targets beyond 50 meters. (the projectil falls down about 4 ) Automatic fusils can fire at a cadence of 10 shoots/sec.
- J
* this is the main point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcano
Originally posted by no1marauderSo let's get this straight. Are you in support of the government's position on JFK's assassination occuring as a result of one man's actions?
6.5 mm fired from a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, a bolt action weapon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcano
If so, have you at least watched the video at the link provided by ivanhoe in the first post of this thread?
Originally posted by FreakyKBHAnd has everyone who has watched all the various videos also read the Warren Commission Report? I bet not.
So let's get this straight. Are you in support of the government's position on JFK's assassination occuring as a result of one man's actions?
If so, have you at least watched the video at the link provided by ivanhoe in the first post of this thread?
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Originally posted by no1marauderMarauder, I'll tell you this. At the time Kennedy was murdered I saw the doctor on televison who tried to save the president's life. He treated the President. He operated on the President. He witnessed the President dying. He officially reported to the world and the press the president's death shortly after he was pronounced dead.
Read the cut and paste, Ivanhoe. Or don't. Kennedy conspiracy theorists are laughable, esp. those who insist the fatal wound came from the front despite the overwhelming evidence from the autopsy to the contrary. They usually come up with the "switched body" theory to explain the autopsy away. Will you be going for that next?
EDIT: Review Newton's Third Law: www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/CLASS/newtlaws/u2l4a.html - 14k -
When he said the president died from a wound caused by a bullet in the head he pointed with his finger to a spot above his own right eye indicating and showing where the bullet went in. At that point nobody knew who Lee Harvey Oswald was, nobody knew who Jack Ruby was, nobody had any theories at all about how the president was murdered, nobody knew how many shots were fired, nobody had heard of the Warren Commission, nobody had heard of the Magic Bullet Theory, nobody knew a man called Zapruder who recorded the President's murder on film, nobody had ever heard of the Department Store from which Oswald fired shots at the President, nobody had ever heard of the Grassy Knoll.
This man, this surgeon, simply reported what he had done without interference from anybody, without being influenced by anybody, without being influenced by the overwhelming and confusing amount of information which was poured out over everybody after the assassination by the media and the government. He simply reported the events as he had seen and witnessed them. He was part of those events. The man reported the truth.
The bullet who killed the President came from the front and hit him just above the right eye in the way this surgeon indicated and reported to the world shortly after the president was pronounced dead by his team of surgeons and other doctors
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI saw the video in the first link on a TV show. I wish I could remember the name of the show; it used all the films made at the scene and some fancy computer generated models to show that all the physical evidence is completely consistent with Oswald being the shooter (and the only shooter). Of course, that has been well known for years to anybody who has honestly looked at the data.
So let's get this straight. Are you in support of the government's position on JFK's assassination occuring as a result of one man's actions?
If so, have you at least watched the video at the link provided by ivanhoe in the first post of this thread?
Originally posted by ivanhoeBunk, unless they replaced the head on the body BEFORE the autopsy.
Marauder, I'll tell you this. At the time Kennedy was murdered I saw the doctor on televison who tried to save the president's life. He treated the President. He operated on the President. He witnessed the President dying. He officially reported to the world and the press the president's death shortly after he was pronounced dead.
When he said the presid ...[text shortened]... it him just above the right eye in the way this surgeon indicated and reported to the world.
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Originally posted by no1marauderMarauder, you perform the same trick you also perform in other discussions, namely you start doubting the honesty of your opponents. A very nasty habit which introduces mistrust to the debate. It poisons the debate. This method is often used by politicians, but I think we should desist from using it.
I saw the video in the first link on a TV show. I wish I could remember the name of the show; it used all the films made at the scene and some fancy computer generated models to show that all the physical evidence is completely consistent with Oswald being the shooter (and the only shooter). Of course, that has been well known for years to anybody who has honestly looked at the data.