Originally posted by kmax87What are you trying to say ? Where does this lead us ?
If you want to talk big conspiracy, then the RC connection may not be all that off the mark. Apparently there are a few affiliations denied Catholics by the rules of the church, such that you may find that JFK was not affiliated to the same degree to all the usual accepted associatons, as you would find the greater majority of US presidents were. Apparently Abraham Lincoln also, had no known affiliation.
Originally posted by ivanhoeTo have affected a coup detat that was Kennedy's assasination and to have promoted the whitewash that was the Warren Commision involved influence through some of the highest corridors of power in America. Whether a rougue influence within or however you would describe the influence, for a conspiracy as successful and complete as the murder of JFK which including rounding up the 'assasin' on the same day is not achieved by outsiders.
What are you trying to say ? Where does this lead us ?
Where does this lead? Where it always led. That power will protect itself, and that no one mere man will ever use the office of the presidency for an agenda that does not have the consent of the consensus view of the wider establishment.
Originally posted by ivanhoeErr...no. If you watch the film, his head is propelled slightly forward and then forced backward when chunks of his head fly off. That's an indication that the shot probably entered in the rear of his head, and then his head was forced backward by a frontal exit wound.
The last bullet hitting him in the forehead blew part of his head away. You can see the impact and then Kennedy's head moving backwards. No doubt that this bullet came from the front.
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Originally posted by no1marauderYes, this is the right idea.
Here's a nice cut and paste for ya, Ivanhoe:
n the Zapruder film, starting with the third shot at frame 313, the upper right part of Kennedy's head blows out forward, and his head lurches back and to the left. According to the conspiracy theorists, there is no way this shot could have come from the book depository; it had to have come from the front, FK_Assassination
You could also read "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.
BTW, I have read the Posner book, and I think he makes a compelling case. That's a good recommendation.
Originally posted by LemonJelloErr ... no.
Err...no. If you watch the film, his head is propelled slightly forward and then forced backward when chunks of his head fly off. That's an indication that the shot probably entered in the rear of his head, and then his head was forced backward by a frontal exit wound.
Originally posted by kmax87My guess is that you're on the right track.
To have affected a coup detat that was Kennedy's assasination and to have promoted the whitewash that was the Warren Commision involved influence through some of the highest corridors of power in America. Whether a rougue influence within or however you would describe the influence, for a conspiracy as successful and complete as the murder of JFK which includ ...[text shortened]... or an agenda that does not have the consent of the consensus view of the wider establishment.
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Originally posted by ivanhoeHave you ever seen the following famous image?
You're so cute ..... 😀
http://www.eyestorm.com/images/vbig/vwork9647.jpg
Notice that the vast majority of material is lost due to the exit of the bullet. Now apply some simple physics and consider what sort of force the banana/rod apparatus is experiencing at that point in time.
EDIT: Thanks for that nice compliment.
Originally posted by LemonJellohttp://www.eyestorm.com/images/vbig/vwork9647.jpg
Have you ever seen the following famous image?
http://www.eyestorm.com/images/vbig/vwork9647.jpg
Notice that the vast majority of material is lost due to the exit of the bullet. Now apply some simple physics and consider what sort of force the banana/rod apparatus is experiencing at that point in time.
EDIT: Thanks for that nice compliment.
In the above banana picture the bullet comes from the left, correct ?
LJ: " EDIT: Thanks for that nice compliment"
You're welcome, LJ ..... 😛
Originally posted by LemonJelloNotice that the vast majority of material is lost due to the exit of the bullet. Now apply some simple physics and consider what sort of force the banana/rod apparatus is experiencing at that point in time.
Have you ever seen the following famous image?
http://www.eyestorm.com/images/vbig/vwork9647.jpg
Notice that the vast majority of material is lost due to the exit of the bullet. Now apply some simple physics and consider what sort of force the banana/rod apparatus is experiencing at that point in time.
EDIT: Thanks for that nice compliment.
It's not simple physics; at least not with specific numeric details. There's no way to tell whether the momentum of the bullet before impact is equal to, greater than or less than the momentum of the bullet plus the extra material as it exits the banana.
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungIt is pretty simple physics, I think. That banana isn't doing much at all to the bullet's momentum -- that's the only assumption that may need debated. If we take that assumption (which I think is a good one -- there may be some studies that I might be able to find that show this), then it's a very simple momentum conservation problem, considering just the banana. That is, it would be easy to state which way the banana would be moving, were it not constrained by the rod.
[b]Notice that the vast majority of material is lost due to the exit of the bullet. Now apply some simple physics and consider what sort of force the banana/rod apparatus is experiencing at that point in time.
It's not simple physics; at least not with specific numeric details. There's no way to tell whether the momentum of the bullet before i ...[text shortened]... r than or less than the momentum of the bullet plus the extra material as it exits the banana.[/b]
EDIT: I did a quick search, but I don't see those studies. marauder earlier in the thread makes mention of a study with a melon -- that's the sort of study that I'm thinking of.