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30 Jun 23
@averagejoe1 saidAnd now you understand why saying Obama is a socialist is dumb as fuk and why leftists don't really like Obama or clinton or biden. They are just better by miles than the orange baboon or the war criminal dubbya. To be fair, Obama is a war criminal as well, so we can compare numbers
All the presidents since Reagan did the Trickle Down.
Biden is a genius that says they were wrong, and that he is going to straighten everything out. Everyone fasten your seat belts. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
And still they did some good besides the failed reagonomics
That's the difference between democrats and republicans. Democrats try to do some good while serving their corporate donors. Democrats comprise a spectrum, from center right (there seem to no longer be center right politicians in the GOP only right and "righter" and "holy fuk you're insane"😉
30 Jun 23
@averagejoe1 saidDependency on what?
What else can you say, given the restrictions in your territory. Pitiful. Why don/t you tell us the beauty of dependency?
We’ve been over this before; many times.
You just can’t comprehend work not being the most important aspect of your existence.
What is wealth to you? Loads of money?
Or the ability and time to do what you like to do?
You (and the other right-wing Americans on this forum) constantly talk about liberty and freedom (which are exactly the same thing, by the way… just choose one… ) , but what you’re talking about sounds an awful lot like being chained to whims of some richer guy.
It’s like you want the freedom to not have health care, not have a working infrastructure and the freedom to drink poisoned water.
@averagejoe1 said“Trickle down”
All the presidents since Reagan did the Trickle Down.
Biden is a genius that says they were wrong, and that he is going to straighten everything out. Everyone fasten your seat belts. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Is that the ‘urinating on your back and telling you it’s raining’ economic theory
@shavixmir saidMy def of freedom is The power to act, think, or speak without hindrance or restraint, like when a growing government hinders or restrains.
Dependency on what?
We’ve been over this before; many times.
You just can’t comprehend work not being the most important aspect of your existence.
What is wealth to you? Loads of money?
Or the ability and time to do what you like to do?
You (and the other right-wing Americans on this forum) constantly talk about liberty and freedom (which are exactly the same thi ...[text shortened]... to not have health care, not have a working infrastructure and the freedom to drink poisoned water.
Prob with libs is that they want to be controlled and protected and made safe, safety nets at every corner, so they have no concept of freedom, or desire thereof.
You ask dependency on what? Uhh, the citizens of which of our countries is more dependent on government? Straight answer please,,,,,actually just naming the country, with no 'fluff' , will do it. And who is this idiot who dares disagree with yoiu and say they are NOT the same?!?
Liberty is defined by the Oxford dictionary as “The state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views.”, while freedom is defined as “The power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants.”.Apr 11, 2018
@AverageJoe1 it is right wing conservatives, the current GOP, that is restricting personal freedom with book and abortion banning and restricting the rights of minority groups. Business grows in countries where the government works to develop the infrastructure needed by business: education, access to the internet, access to electricity, highways, airports, railroads, medical services, emergency services. Corporations do not create these vital structural services yet they are essential to the survival of corporations.
30 Jun 23
@averagejoe1 saidIt's ok to use tax dollars to bail out banks, airlines, auto manufacturers, all of whom made awful, unforgivably bad business decisions to cause their own misfortune.
All the presidents since Reagan did the Trickle Down.
Biden is a genius that says they were wrong, and that he is going to straighten everything out. Everyone fasten your seat belts. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
But people? Nah.
30 Jun 23
@phranny said“Corporations do not create these vital structural services yet they are essential to the survival of corporations.”
@AverageJoe1 it is right wing conservatives, the current GOP, that is restricting personal freedom with book and abortion banning and restricting the rights of minority groups. Business grows in countries where the government works to develop the infrastructure needed by business: education, access to the internet, access to electricity, highways, airports, railroads, medical ...[text shortened]... o not create these vital structural services yet they are essential to the survival of corporations.
Stupidest post yet
30 Jun 23
@wildgrass saidyou should try to understand where jobs come from
It's ok to use tax dollars to bail out banks, airlines, auto manufacturers, all of whom made awful, unforgivably bad business decisions to cause their own misfortune.
But people? Nah.
30 Jun 23
@mott-the-hoople saidThat’s what’s getting explained to you they come from having an educated employee pool and the infrastructure that enables production / transportation etc you believe that the corporations should get these things for nothing whilst the people who actually produce and transport should pay for them.
you should try to understand where jobs come from
The GOP is corporate America in government.
@phranny saidYou suggest that business ‘doesn’t grow’ in the USA? Jesus. Has something changed in the last 250 years that I don’t know about? As to the services/infrastructure you mention, our enterprising country (650,000 patents per year) gears up daily to meet demand, and countries like Zahlanzi ‘s Romania use our stuff all the time. Take the internet…Choose to move into a desolate place, no internet, or use one of the many options like a dish. Phrsnny….. do you think people should get Internet for free? Do you think they should get cell phones for free? You might want to start a new thread on that. I would see a bit of discrimination in such a program. If I work real hard, and someone else does not work real hard, do we both have a right to a free cell phone? Liberals hate questions like this.
@AverageJoe1 it is right wing conservatives, the current GOP, that is restricting personal freedom with book and abortion banning and restricting the rights of minority groups. Business grows in countries where the government works to develop the infrastructure needed by business: education, access to the internet, access to electricity, highways, airports, railroads, medical ...[text shortened]... o not create these vital structural services yet they are essential to the survival of corporations.
And your first sentence is simply what you feel, very emotional. You just casually throw out something about abortion, when the decision made by the Supreme Court was based purely on the constitution, and that is just the way it came down. I don’t totally disagree with you, …one state, I think, says no abortion even for incest or rape. I totally disagree. We can discuss abortion for the 50th time, I will start by saying one can take a morning after pill, or let abortions be OK within six a 6-week period.
We will always disagree, but we are having fun on the forum. For instance, you probably think that my son who is a plumber should have his taxes pay someone else’s student loan, so we will always disagree.
30 Jun 23
@mott-the-hoople saidBased on the post you replied to you seem to think it's the government?
you should try to understand where jobs come from
Bad companies should not be bailed out by taxpayers. Full stop.
30 Jun 23
@kevcvs57 saidnot even. It's urinating in a gold toilet on a private island and telling to peasants that not only that piss is coming eventually but that it's totally what everyone needs and to work hard waiting for it
“Trickle down”
Is that the ‘urinating on your back and telling you it’s raining’ economic theory