18 Apr 13
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305654/Lindsay-Sandiford-WILL-executed-drug-smuggling-Bali-losing-death-sentence-appeal.html
What do you think about this case ??
It sickens me, Its granny killing!! why on earth does bali market itself as a trendy get away when they plan to execute tourists in such a manner? It should be immediately removed from all travel agents as far as I'm concerned! Goa? Prague (no food poisoning and you can smoke weed) bali?? like hell!
Anyway what do you make of it?
Originally posted by e4chrisThey are not executing her because she is a tourist. They are executing her because she smuggled cocaine worth £1.6million into Indonesia from Thailand.
It sickens me, Its granny killing!! why on earth does bali market itself as a trendy get away when they plan to execute tourists in such a manner?
I hope the death sentence is commuted.
[Bali] should be immediately removed from all travel agents as far as I'm concerned!
If there were no travel agents offering holidays there, it would be considerably more difficult for tourists who want to go there to do so.
18 Apr 13
Originally posted by e4chrisWhy should a granny get a less severe sentence than a twenty year old male? Do the crime, do the time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305654/Lindsay-Sandiford-WILL-executed-drug-smuggling-Bali-losing-death-sentence-appeal.html
What do you think about this case ??
It sickens me, Its granny killing!! why on earth does bali market itself as a trendy get away when they plan to execute tourists in such a manner? It should be immediately removed fro ...[text shortened]... (no food poisoning and you can smoke weed) bali?? like hell!
Anyway what do you make of it?
18 Apr 13
she is in deep , but there is a gross hypocrisy in selling itself as a trendy beach resort and executing those who bring the drugs . its no good, would you want to go there? would you want your friends who use drugs too?
if they execute her i hope 7000 tons of sewage or worse ends up on there beaches, they are not fit for most UK tourists thats for sure.
Originally posted by e4chrisBali is both traditional and trendy, depending on where you go. And it's relatively cheap. And beautiful. I've been there several times. I don't have any friends who smuggle millions of dollars worth of cocaine but, if I did, I would caution them strongly not to do so in places like Indonesia.
she is in deep , but there is a gross hypocrisy in selling itself as a trendy beach resort and executing those who bring the drugs . its no good, would you want to go there? would you want your friends who use drugs too?
If you want to boycott Bali, that's fine. But I don't understand why you would want to prevent or obstruct other people from going there by "immediately remov[ing] Bali from all travel agents".
Does your definition of "trendy" really extend to turning a blind eye to drug smuggling? Which countries in the world are "trendy" according to you in this regard?
18 Apr 13
Originally posted by e4chrisWouldn't that just harm the local tourist trade and the many thousands of UK tourists that visit Bali every year and relax on those beaches?
if they execute her i hope 7000 tons of sewage or worse ends up on there beaches, they are not fit for most UK tourists thats for sure.
18 Apr 13
Originally posted by e4chrisI suggest you don't go to Bali if you want to smuggle or deal in drugs. If you oppose the death penalty, then I agree with you. I hope her sentence is commuted.
we should not be handing over our money to countries that treat people like that - i think the same of thailand - if you want a 'cool' holiday (that may involve drugs) we should only spend our money where the guy you get it from won't be hung or tortured ...
18 Apr 13
Originally posted by e4chrisIt sickens me too; but so does the 10 years she might have gotten in the US for doing the same thing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305654/Lindsay-Sandiford-WILL-executed-drug-smuggling-Bali-losing-death-sentence-appeal.html
What do you think about this case ??
It sickens me, Its granny killing!! why on earth does bali market itself as a trendy get away when they plan to execute tourists in such a manner? It should be immediately removed fro ...[text shortened]... (no food poisoning and you can smoke weed) bali?? like hell!
Anyway what do you make of it?
I think it's time we start re-examining whether the war on drugs is really worth it.
18 Apr 13
Originally posted by sh76I don't like the war on drugs, and certainly not capital punishment for drug mules. On the other hand, as long as those laws exist, it is extremely foolish to be a drug mule.
It sickens me too; but so does the 10 years she might have gotten in the US for doing the same thing.
I think it's time we start re-examining whether the war on drugs is really worth it.
We know damned well it isn't worth it, but look at how many people have jobs in the industry it creates, on both the legal and illegal side.
18 Apr 13
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Originally posted by sh76The war on drugs is becoming are war off attrition - even in the UK its causing a lot of suicides in jail, and in bali, thailand its in-human - disgusting.
It sickens me too; but so does the 10 years she might have gotten in the US for doing the same thing.
I think it's time we start re-examining whether the war on drugs is really worth it.
I don't like the hypocrisy, you have judges, there associates snorting coke at christmas parties then locking up the suppliers for a long time - its wrong.
19 Apr 13
Originally posted by e4chrisYou could always go to Margate.🙂
we should not be handing over our money to countries that treat people like that - i think the same of thailand - if you want a 'cool' holiday (that may involve drugs) we should only spend our money where the guy you get it from won't be hung or tortured ...
It smacks of tourist based colonialism to tell a sovereign state what laws and punishments they can enforce just because we want to go there and do drugs. Tourism is a massive conduit for moving money from relatively wealthy people to relatively poor people, so using embargo's in order to manipulate other people into doing what we want should only be considered in severe cases.
I could be wrong but do these non indigenous mules not nearly always get their sentences commuted at the last gasp. What effect do you think it might have on the indigenous population if the streets of Bali were awash with cheap, readily available Cocaine and other rec drugs?
22 Apr 13
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Originally posted by kevcvs57The treatment of Lindsay Stafford is not human and thailand is worse - people have to eat cockroaches there for nutritional value, and that is no myth.
You could always go to Margate.🙂
It smacks of tourist based colonialism to tell a sovereign state what laws and punishments they can enforce just because we want to go there and do drugs. Tourism is a massive conduit for moving money from relatively wealthy people to relatively poor people, so using embargo's in order to manipulate other people into doi ...[text shortened]... on if the streets of Bali were awash with cheap, readily available Cocaine and other rec drugs?
I agree a bit that countries should not have to accomodate bad tourists (bali seem all to keen, but punish those using drugs) I would not expect bahrain to change its laws to accomodate stag doos for example - but marketing yourself as such a destination and doing this is a disgrace, and yes i would strip them out the catalogue.
If they want to run mosque tours fine, but there are better places to see one!
23 Apr 13
Originally posted by e4chrisHave you seen Bali marketing itself as a place where people smuggling cocaine should feel safe going? Rather than "strip them out the catalogue", why don't you urge travel agents to market Bali as 'a great holiday destination - but not if you want to smuggle drugs'?
but marketing yourself as such a destination and doing this is a disgrace, and yes i would strip them out the catalogue.
23 Apr 13
Originally posted by FMFreplace smuggle with take - and yes that is a fair description and one which would put of at least half there punters...
Have you seen Bali marketing itself as a place where people smuggling cocaine should feel safe going? Rather than "strip them out the catalogue", why don't you urge travel agents to market Bali as 'a great holiday destination - but not if you want to smuggle drugs'?