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@philokalia saidDon't play word games. Lies are deliberate acts to deceive. Barr *deliberately* mislead the public and lied to Congress. And he didn't lie about "kissing" or any of your nonsense; he lied about an investigation about collusion with a foreign government to undermine the election and obstruction of justice.
Here's the thing...
There are lies, and then there are ... things that people call lies which are not blatantly lies.
Here's a classic lie:
Lie: "Boss, I'm sick. I can't come to work today."
Reality: I've called in sick on a Friday to go to the beach for all of Friday & Saturday.
Here's another one:
Lie: I never kissed her.
[b]Rea ...[text shortened]... laim its misleading, like I suspect would be the end result of this for a lot of people... Then, no.
The OP:
"should lying to the public be a criminal offense if done by government officials regarding government matters?"
If I interpret something so it is in my favor, am I lying? Of course not. It might feel like someone is "lying" when they are interpreting everything to benefit them, and they may be making bad arguments, and they may be "misleading" (one of the most subjective words in existence), but can you say they are lying?
There is no way to reliably employ a word like "misleading" without using bias, and so it is useless then claim "misleading" people is lying and expect that this can be used in a legal context without creating a spiderweb of problems.
I understand there is such a concept as lying by omission.
Is this an instance where he has told a lie by omission?
Just lay it out there for me.
@philokalia said"Lies are deliberate acts to deceive."----Vivify
If I interpret something so it is in my favor, am I lying? Of course not. It might feel like someone is "lying" when they are interpreting everything to benefit them, and they may be making bad arguments, and they may be "misleading" (one of the most subjective words in existence), but can you say they are lying?
There is no way to reliably employ a word like "misleadin ...[text shortened]... on.[/i]
Is this an instance where he has told a lie by omission?
Just lay it out there for me.
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The post that was quoted here has been removedYou phrased your hypothetical in a way that practically answers it's example question. Any public speaker with even a modicum of common sense can answer such questions in a much more general way. "We don't answer intelligence questions" or some some other generic responses are perfectly reasonable.
@vivify saidI love it!
With Barr now being caught in two separate lies (his misleading summary on the Mueller report and lying to Congress under oath about not knowing Mueller's complaint about Barr's summary), and a report showing that Trump lied over ten thousand times in office, should lying to the public be a criminal offense if done by government officials regarding government matters?
I do ...[text shortened]... isn't already a crime. Congress should introduce legislation making blatant lies a criminal offense.
So the next politician that lies goes to jail.
LMAO!
@vivify saidyou keep saying Barr lied...can you state the lie(s)?
"Lies are deliberate acts to deceive."----Vivify
@whodey saidwhy would people not listen to the #1 news source in the entire country?
Like Hillary, Obama never lied.
You must be listening to that Fox news again.
Gursh durn it!